Red Cobb destroyed by FedEx

[IgnatiusJReilly]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

So sorry that happened Mathew, Fedex ground?

Yup.


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[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by IgnatiusJReilly

Yup.


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Just FYI to the board, Fedex ground are all contract 1099 drivers and have little to no oversite on their behavior. If shipping something like Mathews card FedEx Express is the bare minimum. I wish you the best getting compensated.

[Leon]

That's heartbreaking...
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[IgnatiusJReilly]

Originally Posted by Leon

That's heartbreaking...
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Exactly how I feel. Beautiful piece of history delivered in a damn tobacco package survives a century to go down like this. Awful!

Also, I was a little unclear about the packaging. The card was only in one smaller box. Inside the box the card was wrapped in tissue paper, so much tissue paper that it was packed tight. No Russian doll configuration, no cardboard sandwich, just tons of tissue paper inside a single box. WTF!!!


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[shagrotn77]

Sorry to hear this. I feel your pain. This is what arrived in my mailbox a few years ago. Look at the centering and color on that card. Ughhh. Still bums me out.

[Directly]

The card will show delivered per the tracking number.

is any refund at the sellers discretion to issue you a refund since the card was delivered in good faith but damaged in transit --or will the seller and eBay have you file a insurance claim --also is it true FedEx maximum liability in fine print is capped at $1,000?

Another reason to have a private insurance carrier in the event of rejection by the transit carrier or eBay declining to issue any refund--

A real shame the card looked to be a strong PSA-3

[icurnmedic]

That is sad and infuriating!

I Second the private insurance idea!

I live in what most of you would consider “the hills”,and I rarely have good experiences with Fedex ground. Maybe 20% of the time.

Thomas Church

[brianclat11]

So sad to see that. Such a shame. Best of luck getting your money back. This situation is why I hold my breath until the cards arrive safe and sound. I can’t believe the lack of packaging on something as precious as this.

[Exhibitman]

You cannot count on the box for support. When I have to ship a valuable slab I swaddle it in a bunch of layers of bubble wrap, thick so that if I drop it there will be no damage. Then I box it.

[GaryPassamonte]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

You cannot count on the box for support. When I have to ship a valuable slab I swaddle it in a bunch of layers of bubble wrap, thick so that if I drop it there will be no damage. Then I box it.

Adam has the right idea. The owner is obligated to package an item as if it will be dropped, crushed, etc. Writing things like "Fragile" or "Do Not Bend" is useless. When a package is mailed it is containerized with other packages of all sizes and weights. The container is then dumped/unloaded/turned upside down mechanically for processing. It is not handled gently by human hands like it used to be in days past. I'm actually surprised more packages aren't damaged severely.

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

When dealing with courier companies, do not use as small a box as OP has described. Per someone who owns a local UPS Store, smaller packages are far more likely to get lost, or "lost", or incur damage. Of note is that the price to ship it using lots of bubble wrap and a larger box will be pretty much the same, as weight is a stronger consideration than package size (within reason).

[hcv123]

Originally Posted by Directly

The card will show delivered per the tracking number.

is any refund at the sellers discretion to issue you a refund since the card was delivered in good faith but damaged in transit --or will the seller and eBay have you file a insurance claim --also is it true FedEx maximum liability in fine print is capped at $1,000?

Another reason to have a private insurance carrier in the event of rejection by the transit carrier or eBay declining to issue any refund--

A real shame the card looked to be a strong PSA-3

Yes. FEDEX will only pay out a maximum of $1K regardless of how much of your money they take for a larger insured amount - imo - is flat out theft - which also happened to me with FedEx!

So sorry this happened. While it sounds like it could have been packed a little better - from the look of that card - not sure it could have been packed well enough - did they run it over with a FedEx truck!?

Please follow up on the insurance outcome, I suspect the seller is going to eat any $$ over $1K.

[cannonballsun]

Originally Posted by Directly

The card will show delivered per the tracking number.

is any refund at the sellers discretion to issue you a refund since the card was delivered in good faith but damaged in transit --or will the seller and eBay have you file a insurance claim --also is it true FedEx maximum liability in fine print is capped at $1,000?

Another reason to have a private insurance carrier in the event of rejection by the transit carrier or eBay declining to issue any refund--

A real shame the card looked to be a strong PSA-3

It is so sad to see 2 beautiful cards destroyed like that. It is just terrible.
I'm not familiar with the private insurance for a mailed item. Could you elaborate ? Thanks.

[Directly]

Originally Posted by cannonballsun

It is so sad to see 2 beautiful cards destroyed like that. It is just terrible.
I'm not familiar with the private insurance for a mailed item. Could you elaborate ? Thanks.

I suppose collectable's type insurance policies may vary the policy I have covers my sport cards for loss. I sold a card on eBay USPS Priority insured which was either lost or stolen, in any event the buyer claimed the card was missing. USPS denied my claim.

I filed a claim with all the appropriate paperwork and within 12 days I was reimbursed.--I now only ship higher dollar items USPS registered mail.

[Yoda]

These kind of things can haunt a collector for ages. If you can, don't let it.

[maniac_73]

The title of this thread should have a graphic content warning. Kills me every time I see what was done to that beautiful Cobb!

[cannonballsun]

Originally Posted by Directly

I suppose collectable's type insurance policies may vary the policy I have covers my sport cards for loss. I sold a card on eBay USPS Priority insured which was either lost or stolen, in any event the buyer claimed the card was missing. USPS denied my claim.

I filed a claim with all the appropriate paperwork and within 12 days I was reimbursed.--I now only ship higher dollar items USPS registered mail.

Thanks for the info

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Directly

The card will show delivered per the tracking number.

is any refund at the sellers discretion to issue you a refund since the card was delivered in good faith but damaged in transit --or will the seller and eBay have you file a insurance claim --also is it true FedEx maximum liability in fine print is capped at $1,000?

Another reason to have a private insurance carrier in the event of rejection by the transit carrier or eBay declining to issue any refund--

A real shame the card looked to be a strong PSA-3

Most likely, eBay will fully compensate the buyer via refund (for item received damaged). Conversely, the seller will have to duke it out with FedEx.