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Old 08-12-2021, 02:58 AM
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None I would collect except Payton, Cobb, Mantles, Robinson. The others just to flip. Joe
99% of the cards submitted are just to flip. It's a game of hot potato
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Old 08-12-2021, 03:56 AM
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Wonder how many of these went into a Vault Portfolio to be pumped.

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Old 08-12-2021, 05:35 AM
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surprised no PSA 10 Jordan RC. They aren't rare at all.
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Old 08-12-2021, 06:06 AM
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99% of the cards submitted are just to flip. It's a game of hot potato
I think that is wildly overstated.
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Old 08-12-2021, 06:28 AM
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99% of the cards submitted are just to flip. It's a game of hot potato


..I wonder how much that poor schlub paid to get back that good-looking big red Kobe Bryant with that "Authentic" flip ??

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..I wonder how much that poor schlub paid to get back that good-looking big red Kobe Bryant with that "Authentic" flip ??



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Seriously? There might have been a handful of cards I'd think that people WOULDNT Just try to sell at the top! Guess we will see

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what's up with all the "authentic" cards in the "top 100?"
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Old 08-12-2021, 08:24 AM
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what's up with all the "authentic" cards in the "top 100?"
Unlike us folks who hope for 2's and 3's in vintage, the modern folks can put an AUT grade if they think it grades 7 or lower.
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I know this site is 99.9% vintage but there are some insane valued cards in the “top 100”

I guess we all forget that it’s a subjective list by Nat who also has an insane vintage collection to go with his modern basketball stuff.

I mean I wish my buddy’s Goudey Ruth PSA 2 got a cool pic on the internet but a Trout Orange ref, multiple Lebron rookie 1/1’s etc kinda trump that for the majority of the collecting world.
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Those 1997 Metal Universe cards have some irregular cuts. Even with an AUTH grade, that Kobe is a $50-$150k card. Not something I would buy, but it is my understanding that Nat collects the set too.
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Nat obviously doesn't like hockey because there isn't a single one on his list!
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what's up with all the "authentic" cards in the "top 100?"
I think there are a lot more collectors who don't care as much about alterations or grades than people think. I personally care more about authenticity and eye appeal than I do a number grade.
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I think there are a lot more collectors who don't care as much about alterations or grades than people think. I personally care more about authenticity and eye appeal than I do a number grade.
Given the minimal impact of the scandal, I am sure you're right, but it's astonishing to me that people are fine with a card looking nice because someone has altered it from its original state. That means essentially the skill of the card doctor is more important than how well the card has withstood time. To me it's sacrilege.

And yes I understand the whole thing about what difference does it make since you often can't tell anyhow blah blah lol.
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still alot of prewar cards that have not been graded and may never be... collector choice, price for grading, etc
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I've always thought that "plastic" surgery was an odd moniker especially when the procedure did not involve the use of any plastic.

That said I missed the boat on developing the field of "cardboard" surgery in the operating room. I'll bet Brent would have created a nice sticker for my efforts.
The cards would have been beautiful too with eye appeal up the wazoo.
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Given the minimal impact of the scandal, I am sure you're right, but it's astonishing to me that people are fine with a card looking nice because someone has altered it from its original state. That means essentially the skill of the card doctor is more important than how well the card has withstood time. To me it's sacrilege.

And yes I understand the whole thing about what difference does it make since you often can't tell anyhow blah blah lol.
Feel the exact same way, it's like bad behavior has no negative consequences.
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Given the minimal impact of the scandal, I am sure you're right, but it's astonishing to me that people are fine with a card looking nice because someone has altered it from its original state. That means essentially the skill of the card doctor is more important than how well the card has withstood time. To me it's sacrilege.

And yes I understand the whole thing about what difference does it make since you often can't tell anyhow blah blah lol.
Totally agree. It is beyond sacrilege; it is heresy. Witch, Witch. Card Doctor.
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I think there are a lot more collectors who don't care as much about alterations or grades than people think. I personally care more about authenticity and eye appeal than I do a number grade.
i guess what I was referring to was the % of newish...modern cards with an A grade. Kinda surprising that so many newish cards have been altered?
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i guess what I was referring to was the % of newish...modern cards with an A grade. Kinda surprising that so many newish cards have been altered?
Why is that surprising lol. Far more modern cards are being hacked than vintage IMO, but most probably make it to graded flips.
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