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Old 08-09-2021, 02:31 PM
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Beautiful card! If resubmitted and it gets a grade the second time around, you are going to make out like a bandit.

Good luck if you decide to do exactly that.
Thanks. Ya, I definitely want to have it looked at again. It was graded in 2011. It needs to be reslabbed regardless because the casing has been tampered with. It looks like someone previously tried to crack it out, probably for the same reason of getting a second opinion on it, but got cold feet and gave up because they didn't know how to do it properly and didn't want to damage it. I've examined it under blacklight and looked over every square millimeter with a jeweler's loupe. And I ran extremely high definition scans on it too. Nothing stands out as being altered. It has a very slight tilt to the top edge, but all edges show the same expected texture and chipping consistent with 1952 Topps cards. No sharp edges or anything like that. And it measures correctly. Nothing glows in blacklight. No recoloring that I've found yet either. I think it probably has a good chance of getting a grade if resubmitted.

Plus, I'd be famous over at the blowhard forums! They'd for sure post before and after photos of it along with all my personal info and add it to their tainted cards database and turn me over to the FBI lol.
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Old 08-09-2021, 03:18 PM
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During an "UP" market nobody ever says "I should have sold then"


Maybe psa 8 55.clementes and koufax for one week a few years back?


I just cant believe some of the prices paid, but they keep going up!
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Old 08-09-2021, 03:31 PM
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Snowman- Beautiful card. That being said, your top & bottom borders, left to right, appear to get smaller. Maybe it's just the scan.
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Old 08-09-2021, 05:07 PM
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Snowman- Beautiful card. That being said, your top & bottom borders, left to right, appear to get smaller. Maybe it's just the scan.
Yes, they do. There's a slight tilt left to right. That's my best guess as to why it graded as 'Authentic'. But when you look at the edges themselves under mangification and examine the texture, color, level of fray, and chipping, they all look the same and are indistinguishable from my other 1952 Topps cards. If it was trimmed, my first guess would be the bottom edge, followed by the top edge. The problem is that the presence of a tilt alone does not necessarily mean that it has been trimmed. There is no shortage of these 1952 Topps cards out there with tilted or even flared edges straight from the pack.
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Great looking card, anyway you look at it.
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Snowman,

Great looking card. Hits the eye splendidly. You won't ever regret having stepped up for one that you enjoy looking at every day.

I remember when I went way, way outside the VCP grid at the time to get mine; strangers literally posted that I was stupid. (Which is not surprising given the cesspool of incivility that is the internet most of the time, LOL. No idea why people take time out of their lives to slight what another guy buys for his personal collection.) Anyways I'd done my homework, shopped for a while, and cataloged how few examples had the centering I wanted to look at every day. So having seen quite a bunch of the slabbed examples, your AUTH example has eye appeal available in very few examples that don't cost a king's ransom.

Here's mine, pictured below. Actually wound up meeting the man who pulled it from a pack in 1952 (good side of the internet) and speaking with him at length one day with my son— he even allowed us to record the conversation for posterity. Was amazing to be able to trace a card that old to its pack and to the neighborhood and store where it was pulled. (Seeing how the man later drove it to PSA himself for slabbing, it also became a nice provenance chain proving no alterations in this era of rampant doctoring



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Snowman,

Great looking card. Hits the eye splendidly. You won't ever regret having stepped up for one that you enjoy looking at every day.

I remember when I went way, way outside the VCP grid at the time to get mine; strangers literally posted that I was stupid. (Which is not surprising given the cesspool of incivility that is the internet most of the time, LOL. No idea why people take time out of their lives to slight what another guy buys for his personal collection.) Anyways I'd done my homework, shopped for a while, and cataloged how few examples had the centering I wanted to look at every day. So having seen quite a bunch of the slabbed examples, your AUTH example has eye appeal available in very few examples that don't cost a king's ransom.

Here's mine, pictured below. Actually wound up meeting the man who pulled it from a pack in 1952 (good side of the internet) and speaking with him at length one day with my son— he even allowed us to record the conversation for posterity. Was amazing to be able to trace a card that old to its pack and to the neighborhood and store where it was pulled. (Seeing how the man later drove it to PSA himself for slabbing, it also became a nice provenance chain proving no alterations in this era of rampant doctoring
That's one of the best-looking Mantles I've seen in any holder. Congrats on the find, and such a great story too. I've never been one to care what the masses think. Glad to see the same approach worked for you as well.
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