1919 Ruth vs 2021 Ohtani

[Jim65]

Home runs in 1921 and 2021 are completely different animals. In 1921 Babe Ruth hit 59 home runs, Bob Meusel and Ken Williams were tied for 2nd with 24.

Thats dominance.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Jim65

Home runs in 1921 and 2021 are completely different animals. In 1921 Babe Ruth hit 59 home runs, Bob Meusel and Ken Williams were tied for 2nd with 24.

Thats dominance.

and that my friends.......is thee post of the thread!


and now it's over.

[frankbmd]

Tina says "What's 1921 got to do with it?"

In 1921 Ruth's ERA was 9.00 in 9 innings of pitching.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Tina says "What's 1921 got to do with it?"

In 1921 Ruth's ERA was 9.00 in 9 innings of pitching.

maybe you'll like this one better then:

In 1919 Ruth lead in 8 offensive batting stats:

HR, RBI, Runs, OBP, SLG, OPS, OPS+, Total Bases


Ohtani in 2021 leads in 2:

HR & Slugging



8-2 aint exactly a close game Doc

[Peter_Spaeth]

Bob Meusel was no Vlad Jr.

And some of those categories are sort of overlapping, no?

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Bob Meusel was no Vlad Jr.

And some of those categories are sort of overlapping, no?

I don't listen to anyone who thinks Mike Trout can start a lawnmower.

There's a box of rocks underneath that Angel's cap.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

I don't listen to anyone who thinks Mike Trout can start a lawnmower.

There's a box of rocks underneath that Angel's cap.

I am telling you he mastered it in 8th grade.

[Shoeless Moe]

and if you really want to go there Peter......fine....here's some more if 8-2 wasn't bad enough......

1919

Ruth at the plate
Walks 101
K's 58


2021

Ohtani at the dish
Walks 50
K's 130

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

maybe you'll like this one better then:

In 1919 Ruth lead in 8 offensive batting stats:

HR, RBI, Runs, OBP, SLG, OPS, OPS+, Total Bases


Ohtani in 2021 leads in 2:

HR & Slugging



8-2 aint exactly a close game Doc

Ruth didn't have to compete with Gibson, Suttles, Charleston, etc.

Ohtani has to compete with Guerrero, Tatis, Abreu, etc

Ohtani also leads in WAR.

If you don't think that the best players of color would not have diluted Ruth's dominance, I can't help you.

Once again, 100 years is a long time, different eras.

The numbers do not change the fact that 1919 Ruth is the most similar season to 2021 Ohtani in what the two players were doing on the field every day. If you disagree, perhaps you need to see an ophthalmologist.

The premise of the thread stands. Ruth is great. Ohtani may be. When another pitcher/hitter comes along, we can compare him to both Ruth and Ohtani, but that may not happen for another 102 years, which once again would be a different era.

See you then.

Ta Ta

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

maybe you'll like this one better then:

In 1919 Ruth lead in 8 offensive batting stats:

HR, RBI, Runs, OBP, SLG, OPS, OPS+, Total Bases


Ohtani in 2021 leads in 2:

HR & Slugging



8-2 aint exactly a close game Doc

I Love the passion in these forums. I Love the use of stats and comparing the similarities and the differences in the times. Even love the discussions on the different training methodologies and the ways we use stats to try and the rest of the league like when someone mention Ruth had more home runs in 1 season then the next closest 2 hitters combined.

Keep it coming.