Was Casey Stengel a good manager?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Who but Billy Martin would have pulled Reggie from right field in the middle of an inning on national TV?

[insidethewrapper]

If a manager has great players he is a great manager. If he has poor players he is a poor manager. Just check any high school, college or professional team. Has talent = wins, manager is great. Next year, talent leaves = last place. Stengel first place with the Yankees and last place with the Mets.

There are stories that Stengel asked the pitching coach to put a player in for relief and that player was not even on the team.

[egri]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Who but Billy Martin would have pulled Reggie from right field in the middle of an inning on national TV?

Gil Hodges did the same to Cleon Jones when he was managing the Mets.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by egri

Gil Hodges did the same to Cleon Jones when he was managing the Mets.

Cleon was not quite the magnitude of Reggie but cool. My best friend and I were actually watching the Reggie game, it was an incredible moment, a good one for us because at that point we loved Thurman and hated Reggie.

[D. Bergin]

I don't think Joe Maddon or Bobby Cox or Earl Weaver or whoever you consider a great manager, would have been able to squeeze much more out of some of those horrible teams Casey was saddled with.

[tedzan]

Stengel was not only a "genius" in his ability to handle ball players, he also possessed an extraordinary gift to make the "perfect" decisions at the right occasion.
World Series 1956, Stengel starts Don Larsen in the 2nd game vs. the Dodgers. It's not Larsen's day, the Dodgers score 4 Runs in the 2nd inning. Stengel yanks
Larsen in that inning.
With the Series tied at 2 games apiece, who does Stengel start for the 5th game.....Don Larsen. The rest is history. Was that just sheer luck, or was it the result
of a shrewd mind ?





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[cardsagain74]

After watching Bobby Cox and Jim Leyland stumble (to put it mildly) through about two dozen years of highly talented teams in the playoffs, I learned to never take a manager's leadership for granted (even one from a past Yankees dynasty)

[egri]

I used to think the manager's impact on the team was overstated. Then I saw Bobby Valentine manage the Red Sox. He took a team that had won 90 games the year before, and would win the World Series the following year, and lost 90 games for the first time since 1966.