1961 Post Cereal Cards With Box

[cannonballsun]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

So the cards on the grape-nut boxes could only be found on those? Do you know if that was true of other cereals, also, did they have cards unique to their boxes only? Do collectors of these cards distinguish between those cut out of boxes and the perforated examples you sent away for? Any idea what a complete 1961 set would go for? Thanks for you help.

Cards that were only on one box are called single prints. The 1962 Post Cereal set was produced in very great numbers. I don't think there are any single prints in that set.
As I said before, the cards on the back of the grape nuts box are rare. But those players card were also printed on several other boxes. Master set collectors need to know all the variations in printing, and they can tell which box a card was printed on. I think there are 546 variations in that set, or something like that. That is why so few people try to put master sets together. I haven't done one myself.
In the 1961 set, many people collect both the company perforated cards and the box cards. There are 40 cards, I believe, that were only on boxes. There were 160 different perforated cards. I can think of 3 cards that were only on the perforated sheets. There may be more. Generally, the most expensive cards in the set are 2 of these, #93 Chuck Stobbs and #73 Chuck Estrada. The other card that I can think of is #106 Ed Matthews.
You do see complete Post Cereal boxes on eBay from time to time, I guess they average going for around $1000 from time to time. Of course, it will depend on condition and who is on the box.

[Jay Wolt]

"That is a gorgeous box. Congrats."

Wayne that's a box I had.
Sold it awhile ago to a friend....at least he still has it!

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by cannonballsun

Cards that were only on one box are called single prints. The 1962 Post Cereal set was produced in very great numbers. I don't think there are any single prints in that set.
As I said before, the cards on the back of the grape nuts box are rare. But those players card were also printed on several other boxes. Master set collectors need to know all the variations in printing, and they can tell which box a card was printed on. I think there are 546 variations in that set, or something like that. That is why so few people try to put master sets together. I haven't done one myself.
In the 1961 set, many people collect both the company perforated cards and the box cards. There are 40 cards, I believe, that were only on boxes. There were 160 different perforated cards. I can think of 3 cards that were only on the perforated sheets. There may be more. Generally, the most expensive cards in the set are 2 of these, #93 Chuck Stobbs and #73 Chuck Estrada. The other card that I can think of is #106 Ed Matthews.
You do see complete Post Cereal boxes on eBay from time to time, I guess they average going for around $1000 from time to time. Of course, it will depend on condition and who is on the box.

Thanks for the great information!

[cannonballsun]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

Thanks for the great information!

Right now there is a 1961 Post Cereal set for sale on net 54 B/S/T. It is for $1100, or best offer, or trade. That seems pretty much in line with what those sets go for.
The seller is net 54 member Trat. I sold him the set that he originally had, and he upgraded it. It looks pretty nice.
Check it out.

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by cannonballsun

Right now there is a 1961 Post Cereal set for sale on net 54 B/S/T. It is for $1100, or best offer, or trade. That seems pretty much in line with what those sets go for. The seller is net 54 member Trat. I sold him the set that he originally had, and he upgraded it. It looks pretty nice.
Check it out.

Thanks, Wayne, I'm looking at it seriously. I'm not a card guy, but I love the set and the fact I have the box to go with it. Incidentally, the article I linked in my original post seems to show both Allisons in unperforated form, which if true would bolster the contention that there was indeed a second printing with the "Minnesota Twins" correction. It should be easy enough to prove one way or the other by finding one or more confirmed hand-cut Twins cards with the updated team name.

[cannonballsun]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

Thanks, Wayne, I'm looking at it seriously. I'm not a card guy, but I love the set and the fact I have the box to go with it. Incidentally, the article I linked in my original post seems to show both Allisons in unperforated form, which if true would bolster the contention that there was indeed a second printing with the "Minnesota Twins" correction. It should be easy enough to prove one way or the other by finding one or more confirmed hand-cut Twins cards with the updated team name.

I'm pretty sure the 2nd picture in the article is a company perforated version which has been trimmed, so you can no longer see the perforations. That happened a lot back in the old days.
Now a 1961 Post company card is expected to still show the perforations.

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by cannonballsun

I'm pretty sure the 2nd picture in the article is a company perforated version which has been trimmed, so you can no longer see the perforations. That happened a lot back in the old days.
Now a 1961 Post company card is expected to still show the perforations.

I guess the only way to tell then is the weight of the cardboard, the cereal box variety being heavier than the company cards. So if someone came up with a cereal box "Minnesota Twins," we would know for certain there was a second printing of cereal boxes with "corrections." If nobody can find one, we would know there was only one printing of those.

[cannonballsun]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

I guess the only way to tell then is the weight of the cardboard, the cereal box variety being heavier than the company cards. So if someone came up with a cereal box "Minnesota Twins," we would know for certain there was a second printing of cereal boxes with "corrections." If nobody can find one, we would know there was only one printing of those.

Exactly

[nolemmings]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

I guess the only way to tell then is the weight of the cardboard, the cereal box variety being heavier than the company cards. So if someone came up with a cereal box "Minnesota Twins," we would know for certain there was a second printing of cereal boxes with "corrections." If nobody can find one, we would know there was only one printing of those.

Hank, I don't believe you will find boxes with the corrections, but I wish you luck. In addition to the Twins, there were a handful of players with team changes found only as perforated cards, and some bio info was changed on a few cards in perforated only form. Also, both Estrada and Stobbs were issued on the team sheets only--Stobbs as a Minnesota Twin. So you if you find any of these other changes on boxes or panels, please let us know, as that would be evidence that maybe all changes eventually made it to the grocery stores.

[cannonballsun]

Originally Posted by cannonballsun

Cards that were only on one box are called single prints. The 1962 Post Cereal set was produced in very great numbers. I don't think there are any single prints in that set.
As I said before, the cards on the back of the grape nuts box are rare. But those players card were also printed on several other boxes. Master set collectors need to know all the variations in printing, and they can tell which box a card was printed on. I think there are 546 variations in that set, or something like that. That is why so few people try to put master sets together. I haven't done one myself.
In the 1961 set, many people collect both the company perforated cards and the box cards. There are 40 cards, I believe, that were only on boxes. There were 160 different perforated cards. I can think of 3 cards that were only on the perforated sheets. There may be more. Generally, the most expensive cards in the set are 2 of these, #93 Chuck Stobbs and #73 Chuck Estrada. The other card that I can think of is #106 Ed Matthews.
You do see complete Post Cereal boxes on eBay from time to time, I guess they average going for around $1000 from time to time. Of course, it will depend on condition and who is on the box.

The 4th card that only came from a perforated sheet was #5, Bob Turley.
Also, I have the wrong number for Chuck Stobbs. He is #94, not #93. Sorry, my bad.

[AustinMike]

I have 3 boxes from the 1962 Post issue.

The first picture is an unassembled corn flakes box.

The next 2 are Grape Nuts and the last 2 are Rice Krinkles.

Love all the boxes posted thus far.

Maybe when folks get back from the National, more will be posted.

[Jay Wolt]

Mike love the card boxes especially the Grape Nuts, 3 cards on the back Maris, Mays & Killebrew, quite the trio!

[cannonballsun]

Originally Posted by AustinMike

I have 3 boxes from the 1962 Post issue.

The first picture is an unassembled corn flakes box.

The next 2 are Grape Nuts and the last 2 are Rice Krinkles.

Love all the boxes posted thus far.

Maybe when folks get back from the National, more will be posted.

Absolutely great boxes

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by AustinMike

I have 3 boxes from the 1962 Post issue. The first picture is an unassembled corn flakes box. The next 2 are Grape Nuts and the last 2 are Rice Krinkles. Love all the boxes posted thus far. Maybe when folks get back from the National, more will be posted.

Fantastic!

[Hankphenom]

I don't see the send-away offer on my '61 box on the others, did they not continue that in the following years?

[cannonballsun]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

I don't see the send-away offer on my '61 box on the others, did they not continue that in the following years?

They only did it in 1961. I don't know the reason why they stopped.

[cannonballsun]

From the archives of Huggins and Scott Auctions, a nice assortment of boxes.