Goldin Vault

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by BobC

And exactly why I was bringing this all up, so others on the forum would possibly have a more thorough understanding of potential issues or concerns with using such services, and therefore be able to make better, more informed decisions for themselves about them.

Leaving aside whether there are really any legal concerns, I just wouldn't like the idea of having my cards in someone else's control hundreds or thousands of miles away, speaking as a collector of course not a flipper. It's one thing to go over to the local bank to look at your cards or take them out, quite another for them to be in Oregon or Delaware or whatever. And I wouldn't want any part of using them to avoid sales tax.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Leaving aside whether there are really any legal concerns, I just wouldn't like the idea of having my cards in someone else's control hundreds or thousands of miles away, speaking as a collector of course not a flipper. It's one thing to go over to the local bank to look at your cards or take them out, quite another for them to be in Oregon or Delaware or whatever. And I wouldn't want any part of using them to avoid sales tax.

I'm with you 100%. I actually enjoy having my cards around and digging through them every now and then and re-discovering things I'd gotten a couple decades ago and had since forgotten I had.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by BobC

I'm with you 100%. I actually enjoy having my cards around and digging through them every now and then and re-discovering things I'd gotten a couple decades ago and had since forgotten I had.

Perhaps in the not too distant future all new cards will be issued only in electronic form and you'll store them in a wallet in the cloud, or whatever the jargon is. The upside would be no need for TPGs.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

...no need for TPGs...

They'd find a way, and people would probably crash servers trying to pay them for the service.

(where's the bang-my-head-against-a-wall emoji?)

[BobC]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Perhaps in the not too distant future all new cards will be issued only in electronic form and you'll store them in a wallet in the cloud, or whatever the jargon is. The upside would be no need for TPGs.

Now that would be a shame if they only issued cards in electronic form. Many times holding, touching, being able to feel things, and maybe being able to even smell them actually triggers a lot more memories and feelings than just viewing a digital image of something. How many times have you heard of a son who bought a particular card with his since departed father, and what holding and looking at that card now means to him. Doubt those same memories and feelings would always be there if we're talking about digital images instead. Would also do away with going to shows or shops. If you're just buying a digital image there's no need to ever go anywhere as long as you have a computer or cellphone with internet access. A huge part of the hobby is the hunt and interaction with others. Doing everything digitally would really appeal most to investing and flipping types, and take even more away from the hobby aspect. Hope that never happens.

[BobC]

Getting back to the Goldin "Vault", the main topic of this thread, I've always heard others mention how AHs very often had direct pipelines to TPGs in order to more quickly get items graded by the TPG and ready to be auctioned off. Also seems I remember some people would say that because of their volume and recurring use of these TPG grading services that they suspected some AHs would get not just preferential service and treatment from the TPG(s) they used, but maybe also more favorable grading of items they submitted. Not sure this would be the thinking currently due in large part to the pandemic and the impact its had on TPGs and grading in general, but if that thinking still exists, is one of the potential services Goldin's "Vault" could provide be to get raw cards that people have stored in the "vault" graded by a TPG for them? I do not know, but has anyone seen or heard if this may be offered as an added"vault" service by Goldin?

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by BobC

Getting back to the Goldin "Vault", the main topic of this thread, I've always heard others mention how AHs very often had direct pipelines to TPGs in order to more quickly get items graded by the TPG and ready to be auctioned off. Also seems I remember some people would say that because of their volume and recurring use of these TPG grading services that they suspected some AHs would get not just preferential service and treatment from the TPG(s) they used, but maybe also more favorable grading of items they submitted. Not sure this would be the thinking currently due in large part to the pandemic and the impact its had on TPGs and grading in general, but if that thinking still exists, is one of the potential services Goldin's "Vault" could provide be to get raw cards that people have stored in the "vault" graded by a TPG for them? I do not know, but has anyone seen or heard if this may be offered as an added"vault" service by Goldin?

That would be a Great Benefit for those using the vault if it were possible.

But for me it is still not 100% clear how the rest of it works and if is really worth me doing.

Like others I like to have easier access to the Cards I enjoy to look at them and share the viewing with my friends and family

[A2000]

I'd be interested in this service just so I can use my George Costanza voice and say, 'IT'S IN THE VAULT BABY!!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_COs...hwartedeff0rts

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by BobC

Getting back to the Goldin "Vault", the main topic of this thread, I've always heard others mention how AHs very often had direct pipelines to TPGs in order to more quickly get items graded by the TPG and ready to be auctioned off. Also seems I remember some people would say that because of their volume and recurring use of these TPG grading services that they suspected some AHs would get not just preferential service and treatment from the TPG(s) they used, but maybe also more favorable grading of items they submitted. Not sure this would be the thinking currently due in large part to the pandemic and the impact its had on TPGs and grading in general, but if that thinking still exists, is one of the potential services Goldin's "Vault" could provide be to get raw cards that people have stored in the "vault" graded by a TPG for them? I do not know, but has anyone seen or heard if this may be offered as an added"vault" service by Goldin?

One should ask Nat Turmer about the Lebron James card at the national.


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[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

One should ask Nat Turmer about the Lebron James card at the national.


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If no comment, how about some context?