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[Tabe]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

There is a difference between a request such as, "Show me your license and registration...BLAM" and "put the f'ing gun down...BLAM" Most will get that, but apparently not all.

And if you're holding a cellphone? And you have four people screaming at you with a spotlight on you? "Drop the gun!" "Get down!" "Put your hands up!"
Which command do you comply with? Either way, you're not complying with one which justifies deadly force in your eyes. It's *ridiculous*.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Tabe

And if you're holding a cellphone? And you have four people screaming at you with a spotlight on you? "Drop the gun!" "Get down!" "Put your hands up!"
Which command do you comply with? Either way, you're not complying with one which justifies deadly force in your eyes. It's *ridiculous*.

I get what you're saying, but your not addressing the root of the problem. Why did it take four people screaming at you with a spotlight on you in the first place?

You did something wrong. You got caught. Drop whatever you're holding and throw your hands in the air. Why is that difficult? Why does it take 4 officers (or in many cases a lot more).

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I get what you're saying, but your not addressing the root of the problem. Why did it take four people screaming at you with a spotlight on you in the first place?

Because sometimes a large number of police all respond at once? Surely you've seen that?

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

You did something wrong. You got caught.

Ah, a presumption of guilt. What if you DIDN'T do anything wrong? Do the police absolutely *NEVER* confront anyone who has done nothing wrong?

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Drop whatever you're holding and throw your hands in the air.

BLAM, you're dead, for not getting on the ground.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Tabe

Because sometimes a large number of police all respond at once? Surely you've seen that?

The response (number of responding officers) is usually based on the suspects actions. If the suspect gives up willingly, typically no more than 2 officers are needed. If the suspect decides they want to run, typically more officers are called as backup. Either way, it's usually up to the suspect and their actions.

Originally Posted by Tabe

Ah, a presumption of guilt. What if you DIDN'T do anything wrong? Do the police absolutely *NEVER* confront anyone who has done nothing wrong?

Innocent or guilty, you still comply with the officer's command. PERIOD!

Originally Posted by Tabe

BLAM, you're dead, for not getting on the ground.

Now, that part I like.

I feel like I'm talking to a kid. Don't you have a Rubik's Cube to solve or some other childish activity to occupy your time until your parents get home?

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Now, that part I like.

Went right over your head that you - as in you, vintagetoppsguy - would be dead based on your response.

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I feel like I'm talking to a kid. Don't you have a Rubik's Cube to solve or some other childish activity to occupy your time until your parents get home?

Well, I do need to practice for my Rubik's Cube competition on August 28th, thanks for the reminder.