How would you rank these top key Pre-War Cards?

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by investinrookies

While all these cards are significant for sure, the E90-1 Jackson is his true rookie card and rare, just seems way to cheap in comparison to these others on the list. While the CJ Mathewson is rare and iconic, should it be valued higher than Joe Jackson’s also rare true rookie card? Many other examples I can think of come to mind. This card seems very under appreciated


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The 1914 CJ Matty is a very special card. Not only is it rare, part of an iconic set, and Matty is one of the first 5 HOFers, but it’s one of the few 1914 cards that were changed in the 1915 set; and it’s this last fact that makes it so special. Almost every Cracker Jack pose, including Cobb and Jackson, can be obtained in 1914 and 1915, but not Matty. You want Matty pitching, you must get a 1914, which was placed in boxes of sticky/gooey cracker Jacks.

To me, the 1914 CJ Matty is a top 10 vintage card. I do not believe the E121 Ruth (same pose as 1917, which would be top 10 above the e121) or 1914 CJ Cobb comes close to cracking the top 10. The e90-1 Jackson is potentially on that list bc it’s his rookie, and the 1914 CJ is just an iconic pose and for me, right there as well.

1914 CJ Matty
E90-1 Jackson (can reverse with 1914 CJ Jax)
1914 CJ Jax (see above)
E121 Ruth (same exact post as 1917, which crushes)
1914 CJ Cobb

Meanwhile, all of these, other than the 1914 Matty and e90-1 Jackson can be found on other cards (the Ruth is not mine - need one if you willing to sell or trade)

[investinrookies]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

The 1914 CJ Matty is a very special card. Not only is it rare, part of an iconic set, and Matty is one of the first 5 HOFers, but it’s one of the few 1914 cards that were changed in the 1915 set; and it’s this last fact that makes it so special. Almost every Cracker Jack pose, including Cobb and Jackson, can be obtained in 1914 and 1915, but not Matty. You want Matty pitching, you must get a 1914, which was placed in boxes of sticky/gooey cracker Jacks.

To me, the 1914 CJ Matty is a top 10 vintage card. I do not believe the E121 Ruth (same pose as 1917, which would be top 10 above the e121) or 1914 CJ Cobb comes close to cracking the top 10. The e90-1 Jackson is potentially on that list bc it’s his rookie, and the 1914 CJ is just an iconic pose and for me, right there as well.

1914 CJ Matty
E90-1 Jackson (can reverse with 1914 CJ Jax)
1914 CJ Jax (see above)
E121 Ruth (same exact post as 1917, which crushes)
1914 CJ Cobb

Meanwhile, all of these, other than the 1914 Matty and e90-1 Jackson can be found on other cards (the Ruth is not mine - need one if you willing to sell or trade)

You make good points about all the cards above, especially the duplications of many poses. That being said, I believe that makes the E-90 Jackson even more special (much like the CJ Mathewson point you made) since its the only card of him with that pose, and its his rookie, not to mention rare.

[JimC]

Cobb is my favorite player so his Cracker Jack card has been one I've admired since before I even knew the Mathewson existed. Looking at it in terms of which card I would be most reluctant to part with (if I had them), Cobb is number 1. My personal ranking would be:

1. Cobb CJ
2. Jackson CJ
3. Jackson rookie
4. Mathewson
5. Ruth

They're all awesome of course but I don't value the scarcity quite as much as some. With the Ruth it's always bugged me that it's a picture from his Sox days but a Yankee card, so that is a distant 5th.

Ryan, I realize to a serious collector like you putting the Mathewson 4th is sacrilege.

[puckpaul]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

The 1914 CJ Matty is a very special card. Not only is it rare, part of an iconic set, and Matty is one of the first 5 HOFers, but it’s one of the few 1914 cards that were changed in the 1915 set; and it’s this last fact that makes it so special. Almost every Cracker Jack pose, including Cobb and Jackson, can be obtained in 1914 and 1915, but not Matty. You want Matty pitching, you must get a 1914, which was placed in boxes of sticky/gooey cracker Jacks.

To me, the 1914 CJ Matty is a top 10 vintage card. I do not believe the E121 Ruth (same pose as 1917, which would be top 10 above the e121) or 1914 CJ Cobb comes close to cracking the top 10. The e90-1 Jackson is potentially on that list bc it’s his rookie, and the 1914 CJ is just an iconic pose and for me, right there as well.

1914 CJ Matty
E90-1 Jackson (can reverse with 1914 CJ Jax)
1914 CJ Jax (see above)
E121 Ruth (same exact post as 1917, which crushes)
1914 CJ Cobb

Meanwhile, all of these, other than the 1914 Matty and e90-1 Jackson can be found on other cards (the Ruth is not mine - need one if you willing to sell or trade)

I completely agree with Ryan here.

[obcbobd]

Ruth
CJ Cobb
CJ Matthewson
CJ Jackson
E90-1 Jackson