SGC will NOT offer On-Site Grading at The National

[Rhotchkiss]

No on-site grading is one thing, but why not accept take home submissions?

That makes even less (indeed zero) sense to me.

[Brian Van Horn]

So, SGC is showing up to the National and declining income. If there is a backup in grading, this is understood. If not, hmmm.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

No on-site grading is one thing, but why not accept take home submissions?

That makes even less (indeed zero) sense to me.

Agreed...they should at least do that.

[Oscar_Stanage]

most of their announcements are veiled shots exposing what PSA is not doing

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Wid_Conroy

most of their announcements are veiled shots exposing what PSA is not doing

The grading game has experienced unprecedented growth. I am kinda amazed that no one saw this coming while the writing was smack dab in front of them. If the time is ripe for SGC to grow in the grading game, it is now while PSA is experiencing all sorts of hiccups.

[Lorewalker]

So does this mean the bulk of the operation stays back and continues getting out submissions? They are clearly on a roll in FL and this is an unprecedented move--to not grade onsite at the largest show of the year and one that did not take place last year.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

No on-site grading is one thing, but why not accept take home submissions?

That makes even less (indeed zero) sense to me.

Good point and that would be excellent customer service

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

No on-site grading is one thing, but why not accept take home submissions?

That makes even less (indeed zero) sense to me.

Why not just ship the stuff in before leaving rather than dragging it to Chi and then waiting for them to get it back to FL, sort it, etc a week or so later? That makes zero sense to me.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Why not just ship the stuff in before leaving rather than dragging it to Chi and then waiting for them to get it back to FL, sort it, etc a week or so later? That makes zero sense to me.

I think he is referring to people that have cards at the show that want to get them graded. IE - walkups.

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Why not just ship the stuff in before leaving rather than dragging it to Chi and then waiting for them to get it back to FL, sort it, etc a week or so later? That makes zero sense to me.

For me, Because I have cards a number of five figure cards and a few that are worth well $50k a piece and I feel more comfortable giving them in hand than sending through the mail. Make any sense now?

Also, it would be good for people at show who buy raw or pull things from packs.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

For me, Because I have cards a number of five figure cards and a few that are worth well $50k a piece and I feel more comfortable giving them in hand than sending through the mail. Make any sense now?

Also, it would be good for people at show who buy raw or pull things from packs.

Exactly !

[nineunder71]

First off, You’re an anomaly. And I agree with the other guy for us average joe’s, makes way more since to send the average card through the mail for $30 and wait a couple weeks, instead of paying $200 and having it back in a day or two.

Second, just curious, are you really submitting $50K+ cards to SGC??

I mean, I use SGC, but only because I’m a cheap-a**. So, if you do too, I feel better

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

For me, Because I have cards a number of five figure cards and a few that are worth well $50k a piece and I feel more comfortable giving them in hand than sending through the mail. Make any sense now?

Also, it would be good for people at show who buy raw or pull things from packs.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Not where I would go with an expensive card these days unless PSA wouldn't grade it.

[Rhotchkiss]

I have many cards I would like reholdered that are close to or exceed $50k (see a few below), I have one very rare raw T206 HOF fron-backn combo that I want in an SGC slab, and I have a T206 Crawford Brown Lenox, incorrectly labeled by PSA as black, that I want in an SGC slab.

I prefer SGC to PSA, especially with very rare items - I trust SGC infinitely more

[nineunder71]

That is awesome to hear. And, me too, however I think we are in the minority

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

I have many cards I would like reholdered that are close to or exceed $50k (see a few below), I have one very rare raw T206 HOF fron-backn combo that I want in an SGC slab, and I have a T206 Crawford Brown Lenox, incorrectly labeled by PSA as black, that I want in an SGC slab.

I prefer SGC to PSA, especially with very rare items - I trust SGC infinitely more

Very good plan and very nice cards

[Oscar_Stanage]

I don't get why people think SGC is going to 'close the gap'. it will never happen. There are very few people who know or care about the nuances of grading, which the only market that SGC can compete in. PSA has the most slabs out there, that trade the most frequently and that is not going to change. its liquidity.

Too many people are ok with waiting 10 months for cards. I don't get it, but I do not have to. I am a rare breed. Ive bought expensive cards in PSA slabs, and cross them into SGC. I have destroyed $1000s in 'value' doing so (and most crossed to lower grade to boot). I don't care what a flipper thinks my cards are worth because I don't sell them. and if I do, I will sell to a collector. And, FWIW, a lot of the 'premium' disappears when you actually look at the card itself, and account for time differences in prices. cant compare the price on 5 PSA 7s that sold in the last week vs a last SGC sale from May.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

For me, Because I have cards a number of five figure cards and a few that are worth well $50k a piece and I feel more comfortable giving them in hand than sending through the mail. Make any sense now?

Also, it would be good for people at show who buy raw or pull things from packs.

Could see where it would be convenient for you and it might be that SGC would make an exception for a VIP collector but no grading company scales their business model to the elite collectors. Would not make sense. Hopefully you can make an arrangement with them.

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Could see where it would be convenient for you and it might be that SGC would make an exception for a VIP collector but no grading company scales their business model to the elite collectors. Would not make sense. Hopefully you can make an arrangement with them.

My situation notwithstanding, I would think that a card grading and authentication company (SGC), advertising themselves at the largest card show of the year, would be accept cards to take back home to grade and authenticate. I can understand if they didn't want to bring employees from FLA to Chicago and divert resources away from cards already in the cue. But why not accept cards to take back and grade? There must be a reason, and I will not be at the National, so I really dont care either way.... but I sure hope SGC accepts cards at the next Philly or Chantilly show.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

My situation notwithstanding, I would think that a card grading and authentication company (SGC), advertising themselves at the largest card show of the year, would be accept cards to take back home to grade and authenticate. I can understand if they didn't want to bring employees from FLA to Chicago and divert resources away from cards already in the cue. But why not accept cards to take back and grade? There must be a reason, and I will not be at the National, so I really dont care either way.... but I sure hope SGC accepts cards at the next Philly or Chantilly show.

Bummer. Was hoping to see you there, missed you at Chantilly this last time too.

[Rhotchkiss]

Hi Scott. Thanks for the shout out. I will see you soon. And I must see those Rose Co’s you have coming to auction. Have fun in Chicago

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

My situation notwithstanding, I would think that a card grading and authentication company (SGC), advertising themselves at the largest card show of the year, would be accept cards to take back home to grade and authenticate. I can understand if they didn't want to bring employees from FLA to Chicago and divert resources away from cards already in the cue. But why not accept cards to take back and grade? There must be a reason, and I will not be at the National, so I really dont care either way.... but I sure hope SGC accepts cards at the next Philly or Chantilly show.

But ya just got done telling me about your boatload of $50K+ cards you were upset they would not take home when you are not in fact even going.

PSA is not taking home submissions either. To me it makes nothing but sense that both are refusing to take home subs for collectors.

[Johnny630]

Heres the deal... I know it sucks but..They’re not accepting take home submissions for one reason and one reason only...they don’t want to be responsible for your cards God Forbid something happens in transit.

Prob saves on their insurance too.

Again the Most Important Thing In this Industry is Money.