Let's talk about Hall of Fame candidates who have been "neglected"

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by packs

Clemens' old trainer accused him of cheating but there was no "proof". So, why is he guilty because a guy said so but others aren't? Ortiz failed a test in 2003. He then later claimed that when he finds out why he failed the test, he'd share the information publicly. But he of course never did that. Timing seems suspicious though, doesn't it? In 2003 Ortiz was more or less nobody. In 2004 he makes his first All Star team. Hmmmm......

Ivan Rodriguez though, to me, is the most obvious case. All you have to do is look at a photo of him in his Texas prime and compare it to the little guy who ended up on the Yankees later on.

Though it shouldn't matter, clemens and bonds are a-holes- and that DOES resonate.

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[packs]

Want to hear another coincidence? Pudge turned 32 in 2004, the same year MLB institutes testing. He then goes the next 7 years without putting up an OPS over 100, which is technically not even replacement level talent.

[Mike D.]

Originally Posted by packs

Want to hear another coincidence? Pudge turned 32 in 2004, the same year MLB institutes testing. He then goes the next 7 years without putting up an OPS over 100, which is technically not even replacement level talent.

Wow, a catcher who had below league average offense after turning 32? Sounds like, we’ll…95% of catchers ever.

Not saying he didn’t use…but this guessing is dumb. We should just elect on merit for anyone who didn’t fail a test once the league got serious about testing.