It may never happen but........

[Gorditadogg]

Clemente rookies are down 25% from 3 months ago.

Aaron and Mays, which both took ridiculous jumps over the last year, have dropped off more than Clemente but I would say those two are still overpriced and will fall some more.

Mantles have held up better than most cards the last few months, and since they didn't increase as much as some others over the last year they may be a good value now. I don't see a reason for any specific Mantle card to go up more than another though.

The player whose card values surprised me the most was Nolan Ryan. Didn't see that coming. So I would say the next big thing will be another pitcher. Pick your favorite. How about Bob Gibson?

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[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

Clemente rookies are down 25% from 3 months ago.

Aaron and Mays, which both took ridiculous jumps over the last year, have dropped off more than Clemente but I would say those two are still overpriced and will fall some more.

Mantles have held up better than most cards the last few months, and since they didn't increase as much as some others over the last year they may be a good value now. I don't see a reason for any specific Mantle card to go up more than another though.

The player whose card values surprised me the most was Nolan Ryan. Didn't see that coming. So I would say the next big thing will be another pitcher. Pick your favorite. How about Bob Gibson?

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You're so right about Nolan Ryan. I was early on the Ryan Express, watching his values explode, so I grabbed a couple of mid-grade (5.5, 6.5) 1971s that looked pretty sweet (and a PSA 9 OC 1970 #197 "Ryan Saves The Day!") at really good value prices. Hopefully it's just the beginning of his cards' ascent.

[Harliduck]

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

Clemente rookies are down 25% from 3 months ago.

Interesting to see any data in "months"...clearly there was a spike but as a vintage buyer and not really a seller/dealer I can only see what I paid for a Clemente Rookie 4 years ago, vs one bought recently. A rather LARGE difference...

I did buy a Ryan rookie in March of 2020, an SGC 3 for $225. I remember having several to chose from. I don't think if I sold that same card today for the same price it would last too long...haha.


To be honest for a guy like me who just buys cards and not really caring about the investment either increase or decrease, a significant increase probably means I've evened out on some recent purchases...haha

[skelly423]

As a kid in the late 80s/early 90s, it doesn't surprise me whatsoever that Ryan has exploded. He was THE MAN growing up. Everybody wanted to throw 100mph heat, and he did it year over year forever. I think his booming prices are probably driven by people my age who have started earning real income and can finally live the dream of owning the Ryan/Koosman and other vintage Ryan cards.

I think the same logic can be used to explain the boom in Bo Jackson lately, as well as Ken Griffey Jr. Childhood heroes finally becoming financially attainable all these years later.

[Wanaselja]

Originally Posted by skelly423

As a kid in the late 80s/early 90s, it doesn't surprise me whatsoever that Ryan has exploded. He was THE MAN growing up. Everybody wanted to throw 100mph heat, and he did it year over year forever. I think his booming prices are probably driven by people my age who have started earning real income and can finally live the dream of owning the Ryan/Koosman and other vintage Ryan cards.

I think the same logic can be used to explain the boom in Bo Jackson lately, as well as Ken Griffey Jr. Childhood heroes finally becoming financially attainable all these years later.

Exactly

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by skelly423

As a kid in the late 80s/early 90s, it doesn't surprise me whatsoever that Ryan has exploded. He was THE MAN growing up. Everybody wanted to throw 100mph heat, and he did it year over year forever. I think his booming prices are probably driven by people my age who have started earning real income and can finally live the dream of owning the Ryan/Koosman and other vintage Ryan cards.

Ryan is interesting in that he was one of the few remaining active players who saw a vintage RC boom in the latter part of the first hobby explosion in the early 1990's. This was before grading, but once Nolan became a Ranger and it became clearer to everyone that he was on the verge of things like his 300th win and 5,000th K, that card just went through the roof. In an age when today's EX-MT was routinely considered NM or Mint - that card even in EX shape was selling for more than $1,000. It came back down to earth after a few years of that, and people realizing that (unlike the '67 Seaver...) it wasn't a particularly rare or tough card. Since then it has spiked and fallen pretty much along the same trend as the rest of the vintage hobby - but for a brief period of time I feel like that card was an anomaly. Mantle, Mays, Aaron, Williams, Koufax, et al. had all been retired for a long time and their cards were already worth big bucks. But it's like Ryan went from being a modern semi-star to vintage HOF status overnight. As a teenager around 1992-93, the RC was unattainable - and many of my friends and I were looking just for any early Ryan cards. I eventually landed an OC '73 Topps that I treasured for quite some time. But it was all instantly expensive. Any card of Nolan on the Mets was suddenly north of $100. I later remember paying about 50 bucks for a nicely centered '76 Topps Ryan - which by today's standards was insane for the early 90's.

Also interesting to me that Ryan and his cards didn't get hot until he went to the Texas Rangers, so like 1989 and later. When I started collecting in 1986, I can tell you nobody gave a flip about Nolan Ryan, despite the fact that he was a star pitcher with multiple strikeout records and 5 no-hitters under his belt at the time. As late as 1988, his RC was still only about a $200 item in NM in the Beckett yearly guides.

[Johnny630]

I would say 4 guys from my Childhood have the most potential upside

Ichiro, Jeter, Ken GriffeyJr, and Pujols.