What the hobby is becoming

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

And this is the stuff that makes up the majority of the 10 million plus backlog we keep hearing about.

Prizm and Pokémon!!

[seanofjapan]

I’ve been away from North America for a long time. Can somebody fill me in on the series of events which have transpired in my absence which led to 1990 Fleer Michael Jordans becoming the dominant card in the hobby?

[sportscardpete]

Originally Posted by seanofjapan

I’ve been away from North America for a long time. Can somebody fill me in on the series of events which have transpired in my absence which led to 1990 Fleer Michael Jordans becoming the dominant card in the hobby?

I saw the PSA states and how base Jordan’s have been such a big portion of grading volume. Has to be everyone going through previously worthless binders and bulk grading those cards.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by seanofjapan

I’ve been away from North America for a long time. Can somebody fill me in on the series of events which have transpired in my absence which led to 1990 Fleer Michael Jordans becoming the dominant card in the hobby?

Well, it's not the "dominant" card in the hobby, it's just the currently most graded one. Saying dominant makes you think it's a card most people want in their collection. It's still not.

Here's the Cliff Notes:
1) Worthless cards not graded very often for the last 30 years.
2) Basketball modern going nuts from 2017-2020.
3) Jordan '86 Fleer PSA 10s going from $20K a couple of years ago to $750K on Goldin a few months back. (This is obviously despite how many are trimmed by Robert Block and his friends that PSA couldn't catch, and some sellers at the National in 2018 having an entire case full of them.
4) Trickle down effect to '87, '88, '89 Fleer Jordans since those are some kind of all-important run of the GOAT.
5) COVID keeping everyone at home hearing about sky-high prices and finding their old collections.
6) Run on junk wax going for 10-100x what it went for a few years ago.
7) The Last Dance ESPN series in April 2020 reminding people about Jordan being best ever, forcing everyone and their grandmother to look for PSA graded copies. Since they were worthless until then (basically) and "LOW POP!!!21!@@!!!" and PSA ran a grading special for just Jordan cards, all those people sent in their heretofore worthless raw Jordan card to make dolla-dolla bills y'all.

Also, there was a huge increase in crypto valuations and the Fed kept giving away "free money" and there was nothing else to spend money on (vacations, restaurants, movies, sports games) for about a year, and much of it flooded into sports cards, since that was a great place to beat inflation. Well, it was at the time. Let's see what it is in Jan 2022...

Update: added image showing some price progression information.

[Johnny630]

It's becoming a greed fueled, money driven addiction for many.....these guys submitting all these Jordan's don't love the cards like we love our vintage they love the thrill, chance, and chase of the big pay off.

[Rich Klein]

One other thing to remember about basketball cards is the people who are re-entering, have re-entered or joined our hobby in the past year are primarily of the age where....

Well when basketball cards led by Jordan were actually more popular than baseball cards among the kids and the 20-25 year pattern we always noticed in cards from when people returned from the 3C's (Cars, Cuties and College) were more basketball conscious than baseball conscious.

So... guess what they went to,,, yep, basketball cards

Rich

[seanofjapan]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Here's the Cliff Notes:

Thanks, that is quite interesting. Glad to know there is at least some form of logic driving it. Sort of.

2021 be like:

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Prizm and Pokémon!!

and junk wax Jordans.

[Republicaninmass]

99% of the cards are at psa for a quick flip...lol


Going to be a long flop. Someone mentioned to me a luka rc card they sold for 6k, is now selling for 250$. If that's the case, it will be a mad rush to the bottom once these cards come back from psa. Even if people break even, they'll be so ashamed to have.a 1990 fleet jordan psa 8, they'll sell.

[Tyruscobb]

Just one number caught my eye - 24,500. This is how many cards PSA graded each day in June. WoW.

This is great news for Bobby’s two outstanding piggyback groups. Maybe we will get our cards back before 2022.

[notfast]

PSA ran a special on grading Jordan cards…so this isn’t a completely unbiased #.