Well this sure is interesting! Goldin/PSA now the same?

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Graders know whose cards they are grading, no? So how can there be a firewall as a practical matter?

It certainly appeared that PWCC and others had preferential treatment at PSA (and SGC) and they are not even an insider. How is one to really take Ken Goldin seriously?

And at the end of the day does Ken or anyone else really need to come out and assure anyone? Personally I would feel better if they would have just told us all if we don't like the new arrangement to pound sand.

[bigfish]

Is there a Fox in the hen house????!

[keithsky]

When Goldin got started in his auctions it was the little guy like us that got him off the ground and made him successful but we're long gone now. It's all those millionaires and billionaires that you see buying in his auctions. To hell with the little guy anymore. Oh how we forget.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by keithsky

When Goldin got started in his auctions it was the little guy like us that got him off the ground and made him successful but we're long gone now. It's all those millionaires and billionaires that you see buying in his auctions. To hell with the little guy anymore. Oh how we forget.

A loose affiliation of millionaires and billionaires?

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

A loose affiliation of millionaires and billionaires?

These are the days of miracle and wonder….

[arcadekrazy]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

These are the days of miracle and wonder….

This is the long distance call.

[Rich Klein]

Skipping ALL the other arguments on this subject, from what I hear almost NO ONE works harder (and will probably continue to do so) than Ken Goldin and that hard work has garnered him quite a payday.

It's nice to see someone who works hard and inspires his team to do as well get rewarded.

Rich

[rand1com]

Originally Posted by keithsky

When Goldin got started in his auctions it was the little guy like us that got him off the ground and made him successful but we're long gone now. It's all those millionaires and billionaires that you see buying in his auctions. To hell with the little guy anymore. Oh how we forget.

While it is true that the high dollar auction items cater to the super wealthy, I regularly win items in Goldin Auctions that are worthy of being in collections but not worth hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars.

I give Ken credit for growing a company from the old days 25 years ago on late night TV(literally 3-5 AM) when he was hyping Mantle and Dimaggio autographs and 1987 Topps wax boxes to his current windfall.

There are still deals to be had for collectors in most of his auctions and I assume there will continue to be. You just have to look harder if you are not a multi millionaire to find the underpriced collector gems. Star by searching by lowest priced items on the final auction day and when you reach your limit price wise, stop looking.

When all items in his auctions start bringing 5 figures and up, I will stop looking. Until then, I will look no matter who owns the company.

And I agree with a few others, good for him and I don't blame him one bit for taking a couple hundred million for his company.

[Peter_Spaeth]

It bears repeating, yet again.

Stuff trumps all.

[Johnny630]

It’s a Asset Commodity Investment Opportunity to all of them in this firm....I don’t care where their roots come from or what they may claim to have as a “collection” that’s bull sh$ It’s all about big ticket items and their returns.

[Peter_Spaeth]

It seems there's huge money these days in high grade slabbed cards with manufactured scarcity, particularly basketball. I do wonder if that model is sustainable over the long term.

[BRoberts]

Originally Posted by rand1com

While it is true that the high dollar auction items cater to the super wealthy, I regularly win items in Goldin Auctions that are worthy of being in collections but not worth hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars.

I give Ken credit for growing a company from the old days 25 years ago on late night TV(literally 3-5 AM) when he was hyping Mantle and Dimaggio autographs and 1987 Topps wax boxes to his current windfall.

There are still deals to be had for collectors in most of his auctions and I assume there will continue to be. You just have to look harder if you are not a multi millionaire to find the underpriced collector gems. Star by searching by lowest priced items on the final auction day and when you reach your limit price wise, stop looking.

When all items in his auctions start bringing 5 figures and up, I will stop looking. Until then, I will look no matter who owns the company.

And I agree with a few others, good for him and I don't blame him one bit for taking a couple hundred million for his company.

An anonymous post praising Ken Goldin. I am not surprised.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by BRoberts

An anonymous post praising Ken Goldin. I am not surprised.

Not any longer...

and I agree with Rich right above here. Ken works very hard and it's paying off.
.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Leon

Not any longer...

and I agree with Rich right above here. Ken works very hard and it's paying off.
.

Just ask my dead grandmother about home shopping network. Its working smarter, not harder these days.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

It certainly appeared that PWCC and others had preferential treatment at PSA (and SGC) and they are not even an insider. How is one to really take Ken Goldin seriously?

And at the end of the day does Ken or anyone else really need to come out and assure anyone? Personally I would feel better if they would have just told us all if we don't like the new arrangement to pound sand.

Take him as a business man who is about making himself richer.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Take him as a business man who is about making himself richer.

I see nothing wrong with that, on principle. I work to make myself richer too.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by Mark17

I see nothing wrong with that, on principle. I work to make myself richer too.

Neither do I, it’s his prerogative.