A T219 Thread

[G1911]

Bought a lot of 30 some odd cards (I should stop buying lots of sets I like but have most of the cards already, but I'm an addicted junkie) and breaking it up have found 4 of the 5 remaining blacks I needed. Puts me at 49/50, only Jack Johnson (of course!) to go.

[G1911]

As I mentioned in the Tolstoi thread, the Red Crosses are a different size. I'd never noticed this, but now that I have a couple in hand, the difference is obvious. You can see the image is cropped differently, with the left side cut off. Presumable this is why the backs don't have the standard frame arrangement all the others do.

Here's Frankie Conley with all 4 of his cards, HLC Black, HLC Green (note the striking difference, it's as legit a different back as Hindu Brown and Hindu Red), Miners Extra, and Red Cross on the far right. Look at Conley's right hand in relation to the border; it's not just cutting that makes them smaller, but re-cropping of the image.

I've never seen anyone mention this before, or found a reference in any of the small amount of material publicly available on them. I can't be the first to notice this...

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

I'll be honest, I don't think I've ever had any of the Red Cross backs. Very cool.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

I'll be honest, I don't think I've ever had any of the Red Cross backs. Very cool.

Their extreme scarcity makes this kind of odd, come to think of it. Usually ATC just cut differently when they wanted to shorten a card a little (T42, T206 American Beauty). That they went to this extra work of actually recropping the image for a set that must have had a tiny, tiny print run seems pointless to me. There’s only a sheet or two worth of surviving cards, this couldn’t have had a large press run or have been expected too, as Red Cross does not seem to have been a strong seller, it’s a tough back in all it’s sets (T60, the T206 clone I’m forgetting the designation of, T207 that’s even tougher than these). Weird.

[RCMcKenzie]

Here is the cropping for Kline from T218 to T219 Red Cross. I always kept the few T219 Red Cross that I had in a separate box from the ME and HLC. I had noticed the borderless backs, but not the cropping on the front, and smaller size, until you mentioned it.

[G1911]

Always cool to have an excuse to ask to see Red Crosses. The cropping on Papke is visible, unintentionally, in post 13. Looks like all of them are just cropped tighter on the viewers left side of the card instead of varying to fit the image. The Jack Johnson must look a little weird; he's already tight to the border in the normal T219.

[gfgcom]

Just received these, not high grade, but very rare!!