The "technical" aspect of creasing in grading....

[chadeast]

Originally Posted by YazFenway08

Thanks Chad. I don’t disagree. I did a somewhat detailed look though some sales and saw some “1”s that looked like they had been run over by a lawnmower and sold for $100 and a “1” like your described with very minimal apparent creasing sell for $300, etc. ...amd then vice versa

It is possible some of what I see are not “real” sales but not sure.

I don’t have unreal expectations about value on these cards...but these lessons will be applied on cards that matter much more...

I appreciate the feedback...keep it coming

If you decide to grade some, the Foxx's, Grove, Dean, and I suppose Bengough are the only ones worth even considering. People list really beat up Bengoughs for crazy prices, something that defies logic yet has been going on for a long time now, so there is some value there. Just not sure if you'll get your $30 grading fee back in the sale, on the Bengough or any of these. I'm waiting for sub-$20 grading to return at SGC, hopefully not longer after PSA opens back up, so it may be worth waiting for that. Of course, I may be waiting forever

[YazFenway08]

the points all you guys are making are valid.

I know the PSA "auction prices realized" data is far from a perfect tool...

but if you look just back a year or so for "comps", you see PSA "1"s of the '33 Foxx in the $250-300 range, the '33 Grove in the $125 range, the '34 dean at $200, etc.

interestingly, there is a '34 Foxx "2(mk)" sold in April 2019 for $200 and I think mine is a tad better...

So even if you assume that SGC pre-war graded is trading at a discount to PSA, and you assume that all the PSA prices included the juice, I still think spending $30/card and waiting 6 weeks (?) for PSA to do their thang might make sense, especially if I also send in some no brainer cards to defray shipping expense. I know I am leaving out things in the cost analysis, but that seems like netting $100ish with modest hassle on the Foxxs which is more than I could get raw

Basically, Chad and Mark, you are right on the money (pun intended)...I might just send the Foxx's and chalk it up to educational expense

[Jcosta19]

Originally Posted by YazFenway08

So even if you assume that SGC pre-war graded is trading at a discount to PSA, and you assume that all the PSA prices included the juice, I still think spending $30/card and waiting 6 weeks (?) for PSA to do their thang might make sense,

Basically, Chad and Mark, you are right on the money (pun intended)...I might just send the Foxx's and chalk it up to educational expense

I assume you meant SGC to do their thing?

I just send 3 cards at the $30 level that are on their way back right now and the turn around time was 9 days (plus 3 for shipping).

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[YazFenway08]

Justin...yes, meant SGC. I had just been looking at PSA site et voila...

good to hear on your current experience with SGC turn around...This might be a relatively low risk way for me to dip my toe in water and learn a little...

[hcv123]

When it comes to A's and 1's - Eye appeal makes a world of difference and can have a significant influence on the price. So as best you can from photos be sure you are comparing apples to apples - not just looking at the number on the holder.

Something that hasn't been said, but if the Foxx with the pencil wasn't a 1 before the pencil, it almost assuredly would be with it.

Another alternative - list raw in the BST for what you believe to be fair value sitting in SGC 1 holders and see if you get any bites. You can always send to SGC and who knows maybe you move 1 or more raw.

[YazFenway08]

Thanks Howard. Understood about eye appeal and apple to apples. Not a bad idea on B/S/T...I'm just trying to get comfortable on what even I think is a fair range if I decide to sell.

a lot of this was just a way for me to learn a bit about TPG processes and self-assessment for...without any great exposure, risk or expense. I think I will include a couple of these in a batch and see...I will certainly help for the next round

these certainly aren't as nice as the '34s I bought from you on your set break last winter!

[Casey2296]

A "1" with a good crease and a "1" with a bad crease.
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