T206 Black vs Brown Lenox

[Rhotchkiss]

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Originally Posted by Pat R

The BVG is definitely brown.

Respectfully, I don’t agree. I put pics of the BVG and PSA up against several blacks and browns before going after the PSA one and passing on the BVG. To me, the BVG looked much more like the black backs than the browns. I then sent comparisons to folks on this site whose t206 opinion I very much respect for second opinions, all of whom agreed the PSA was brown and the BVG likely black. I think Heritage blew the description on the BVG (hardly unheard of) and PSA blew the description of the brown it encapsulated (even less unheard of). I guess we will never truly know unless/until they are in hand abs compared to each other and other blacks and browns. But here they are back to back (pun intended). The first is the psa Crawford, the second the BVG, and the third one is my Marquard black Lenox

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I see exactly one brown above.

[MVSNYC]

I agree with Ryan. I'm one of the "folks" he mentioned. I cannot imagine the BVG example being anything other than Black. And the PSA 1 looks as Brown as a tree trunk to me.

Great pick ups Ryan.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

I agree with Ryan. I'm one of the "folks" he mentioned. I cannot imagine the BVG example being anything other than Black. And the PSA 1 looks as Brown as a tree trunk to me.

Great pick ups Ryan.

+1. The BVG looks like faded black, not brown IMO.

[Pat R]

The brown Lenox aren't like the brown Old Mills they vary a lot. There are
several different shades from a brown similar to the Old Mills to a dark brown that has a purplish shade.

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The Crawford is the darker brown that's harder to tell here it is between two black Lenox from the same auction

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If you had it in hand and put it next to a black it would stand out more than it does in a scan.

I adjusted the saturation so it shows the difference better this is the same image as above.

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[Maculay1979]

That saturation definitely seems to indicate brown. Would saturation make a faded black look brown?

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by Maculay1979

That saturation definitely seems to indicate brown. Would saturation make a faded black look brown?

No here's the Crawford in question on the left next to a another black Lenox
that's pretty worn.

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