I'm sick of all this damn money talk; let's have a virtual card show

[CobbSpikedMe]

Originally Posted by Clutch-Hitter

Brian, those E91s are very interesting. Looking at them without the comparison, I wouldn't guess they resembled the player as well as they do. Looking forward to the next.

Back to the pastime tomorrow:


1920 Universal Matching Cards (W516-1) by Greg Martin, on Flickr

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Greg,

I have a similarly cut Fulton and a Big Head version to go with it.



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[edjs]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

Ed, I think you should be Ables to do a pin. And a cool pin indeed.

Brian

I’m glad no one had an issue with the pin. Now, I don’t think I’ve seen a Lections here. Unless I missed one?

[Clutch-Hitter]

Originally Posted by edjs

I’m glad no one had an issue with the pin. Now, I don’t think I’ve seen a Lections here. Unless I missed one?

Haven't seen one of those in a while!

[Clutch-Hitter]

Originally Posted by CobbSpikedMe

Greg,

I have a similarly cut Fulton and a Big Head version to go with it.



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Love those, Andy. That's a sharp big head

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by Clutch-Hitter

Brian, those E91s are very interesting. Looking at them without the comparison, I wouldn't guess they resembled the player as well as they do. Looking forward to the next.

Thanks Greg, E91A cards (and nearly 1/2 the cards from E91B) deserve any boost I can give them. The artistic styling seen on the cards are not my favorite, but they definitely tried to capture the facial characteristics of the players. Here is a nice comparison of a E91A (also in E91B set) Eddie Plank and an E95 of him.

Brian

[Exhibitman]

[Clutch-Hitter]

Adam, some may not know how tough those are, especually the w516-2-3, both type 1 and 2 big heads, and the nearly impossible poster card.

[Clutch-Hitter]

Oh there's a w516-1-2 in there. Those are 2nd toughest to poster cards in my experience. Outstanding

[GeoPoto]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

Here is a nice comparison of a E91A (also in E91B set) Eddie Plank and an E95 of him.

Brian

The E91-C team presents Eddie Plank playing the role of Long Tom Hughes:

Thomas J. "Tom" Hughes. "Long Tom". Pitcher with the Washington Senators in 1904-1909 and 1911-1913. 132 wins and 15 saves in 13 MLB seasons. 1903 World Series champion with the Boston Americans.

Hughes had a career ERA of 3.09. He debuted with the Chicago Orphans in 1900-1901. He went 20-7 for the 1903 world champion Boston team, but his best season may have been 1908 with Washington despite a 18-15 record as he posted a 2.21 ERA in 276.1 innings pitched.

Excerpt from his SABR biography: Long Tom Hughes mixed a happy-go-lucky lifestyle with a Chicago-tough pitching moxie. Tall for his time at 6-foot-1, he stayed at about 175 pounds throughout his career. A heavy smoker and drinker, he took no particular care of his body, yet managed to stay in the major leagues until nearly age 35, and in the semi-pro ranks past age 40.

Hughes loved being on the mound, at the center of the game. He had an outstanding drop curveball, a good change of pace that helped his fastball, and a rubber arm. After throwing 200 or more innings every year from 1903 to 1908, Hughes’s arm finally gave out, and he spent the 1910 season in the minors. Yet, in this age before reconstructive surgery, Hughes then succeeded in doing what few pitchers of his era could: he came back from a lame arm, and pitched three more seasons in the major leagues, winning 28 games for the Senators from 1911 to 1913.

“Prize fighters might not be able to come back,” Alfred Spink observed prophetically in 1910, “but good, old, sturdy, big-hearted athletes like the grand old man, Hughes, can.”

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[qed2190]

A couple more Hughes and a Wood that doesn't resemble Wood

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by qed2190

A couple more Hughes and a Wood that doesn't resemble Wood

Noted scofflaw here breaking the one a day post rule, but for a good cause. Joe Wood is in the E91C set, where no player is based upon the player's facial image. Here is the E91A McGinnity that has the same artwork as the Wood, and McGinnity's E254 counterpart.

Brian

[Clutch-Hitter]

1920 Big Head Type 1 Fulton to tie into the previous and one of my favorite cards.


1916 Big Head Strip Cards (Fulton) by Greg Martin, on Flickr

1910 E96 Philadelphia Caramel by Greg Martin, on Flickr


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[CobbSpikedMe]

Sticking with the current theme, here are my other three Big Heads. I love these cards. They colors are great on them.


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[GeoPoto]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

Ralph Seybold, RF, from the E91A set was dropped in the E91B set, with Dan Murphy RF designation taking over his artwork.

Brian (I think I almost confused myself with all these words)

The E91-C team now offers the Bob Unglaub Story, a tragedy that ends with our hero's untimely and gruesome death in an industrial accident involving a locomotive and well, you will have to see it to believe it. Playing the part of Unglaub will be Ralph Seybold (unless he is needed elsewhere to play Dan Murphy). From Unglaub's SABR biography, we offer this tease:

A story is told of Unglaub during his stay in Milwaukee. His manager, Joe Cantillon, and several players were walking the streets of Indianapolis. They stopped on a corner to take in the spectacle of a Salvation Army gathering, complete with brass band. Much to their amazement, out of the crowd stepped Bob Unglaub to repent his evil ways.

“I am sorry to admit it,” he said, “but I am a baseball player. I don’t know how I ever got into such a degrading, sinful business. It is an awful game and the men who play it are sinners, not fit for God-fearing people to associate with.”

Cantillon had to restrain his companions from going after their teammate as Unglaub finished his testimony, and they then went on their way. When telling this story a few years later, Cantillon was asked if Unglaub had quit baseball after his epiphany. “Hell no,” snapped the manager, “He was the first man in line at the pay window on the first and fifteenth of every month.”

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[MVSNYC]

Fun thread, here's a T206 Proof...

[Clutch-Hitter]

That proof is great


1927 American Caramel by Greg Martin, on Flickr

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Clutch-Hitter

That proof is great

Yeah. It looks like he's swatting at the proof marks.

[MVSNYC]

Thanks Greg!

Adam pretty funny. Now I can't unsee that

(Cool Duke pieces)

[GeoPoto]

Bobo Newsom

Louis N. "Bobo" Newsom. Pitcher with the Washington Senators in 1935-1937, 1942, 1943, 1946-1947, and 1952. 211 wins and 21 saves in 20 MLB seasons. 4-time All-Star. 1947 World Series champion. 1942 AL strikeout leader. He had a career ERA of 3.98. Newsom debuted with the Brooklyn Robins/Dodgers in 1929-1930. He changed teams 16 times. Almost joined Benton as only to have pitched to Ruth and Mantle. He was known for his eccentricities. In 1940 with the Detroit Tigers he posted a 21-5 record with a 2.83 ERA in 264 innings pitched. His last team was the Philadelphia Athletics in 1952-1953.

Excerpt from Newsom's SABR biography: The name Bobo came about because Newsom never could or would remember anybody’s name, so he called everyone Bobo and thus earned that nickname for himself. He was 211-222 in his twenty-year Major League career, one of only two pitchers who won more than 200 games but finished with a losing record.

When Bobo started a game, he was determined to go the distance no matter what. On May 28, 1935, a third-inning line drive by Cleveland’s Earl Averill broke his left kneecap. When Washington manager Bucky Harris reached the mound, Newsom said, “I think it’s broke.” Harris asked Bobo if he should take him out of the game. “You kidding me? I said it was broke, I didn’t say I was dead.” Bobo continued to pitch and after every inning would say, “It’s broke” His teammates laughed at him, assuming it couldn’t be broken because he wouldn’t be able to stand up if it was. Following the Senators’ 5–4 loss, Newsom was hobbling around the lobby of the hotel, still insisting his kneecap was broken. Finally he went to get an X-ray, and it was indeed “broke.”

Newsom always felt the need to express his feelings, often to his detriment. In 1943, when he was with the Brooklyn Dodgers, he had a run-in with manager Leo Durocher. The cause was a difference of opinion between the two over a pitch Newsom threw to Vince DiMaggio. Leo wanted the pitch high and inside. Newsom threw what he considered a high and inside pitch. Leo did not concur. After much debate about the merits of the pitch, Newsom finally said, “With two balls and one strike on the hitter and a man on first base you want me to throw a ball that isn’t close to a strike. Why don’t you just walk the guy and save time? If you want me to pitch that way, I don’t know anything about the racket.” Leo disagreed, and the arguing continued until Leo said, “You’re suspended for the season.” “What the hell for?” asked Newsom. “I haven’t cussed you or gone against your orders. You know you can’t suspend me for the season and make it stick.”

Newsom’s teammates threatened to go on strike unless he was reinstated. The usually reserved and gentlemanly Arky Vaughan was so upset by the argument and subsequent suspension that he rolled up his uniform, handed it to Durocher, and told Leo to shove it up his ass. With the rest of the team ready to walk out in support of Newsom and Vaughan, Durocher relented and Newsom was reinstated.

https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1623665868

[brianp-beme]

Definitely no mistaking the Johnny Evers jawline, seen in this E91A (as well as his E91B) and his E254 Colgan's Chip card, both utilizing the same photo for his face.

Brian

[CobbSpikedMe]

How about the famous Connie Mack on the john pose...



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[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

Definitely no mistaking the Johnny Evers jawline, seen in this E91A (as well as his E91B) and his E254 Colgan's Chip card, both utilizing the same photo for his face.

Brian

Not sure if I posted this yet:

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Not sure if I posted this yet:

Quite the jaw on The Man too!

Brian

[Leon]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

Here is a T209-2 Contentnea of Stewart. Of Wilson.

Brian

I see your Contentnea with a boomerang in my collection (have owned it 2x).

[brianp-beme]

Another E91 comparison post, this one of E91A Daniel Shay. This one I couldn't find another card (not sure if there are any...he had a fairly short and nondescript career), but I did find the photo the E91A card was based upon.

Brian

[GeoPoto]

Bob Groom

The E91-C Team now proudly presents The Bob Groom Story, a dramatic roller-coaster ride of highs and lows during a baseball life. Playing Bob Groom in today's feature is Chief Bender. The following excerpt from Groom's SABR biography provides a flavor of the high drama and true grit depicted in our feature:

With Clark Griffith at the helm in 1912, the Nationals improved dramatically, winning 91, losing 61, and finishing in second place. Pitching a career-high 316 innings, Groom won 24 games and Johnson won 33, combining for over 60 percent of Washington’s victories.

A major highlight of the 1912 season was the Nationals’ 17-consecutive-game winning streak. Bob started and won four of the games in that streak, his most impressive win being the last, on June 18. Only after that game was over did the Nationals’ fans learn the grit it had taken for Bob Groom to win that game. Before the game, he discovered a painful abscess on his back between his shoulders. The Nationals’ team physician recommended a debilitating operation, but Bob refused, and instead had the doctor insert a drainage tube. With the tube in his back, he put on his uniform and pitched a complete game, giving the Nationals a 5-4 victory over Philadelphia.

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[Exhibitman]

It's never a bad time for a Jackie Robinson

[Clutch-Hitter]

1923 Maple Crispette by Greg Martin, on Flickr

[Exhibitman]

Happy Birthday to The Iron Horse

[Clutch-Hitter]

Best smile in baseball history, crease and all


1931 W517 Mini (Gehrig) by Greg Martin, on Flickr

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by Clutch-Hitter

Best smile in baseball history, crease and all


1931 W517 Mini (Gehrig) by Greg Martin, on Flickr

That's not a crease it is a dimple.

[brianp-beme]

Lou reduced to his basics.

Brian

[t206blogcom]

[Exhibitman]

[GeoPoto]

Charlie Gelbert

Charles M. "Charlie" Gelbert. Shortstop for the Washington Senators in 1939-1940. 766 hits and 17 home runs in 9 MLB seasons. 1931 World Series champion. He debuted with the St. Louis Cardinals in 1929-1932 and 1935-1936. In 1930 with the Cardinals he posted a .360 OBP with 92 runs scored and 72 RBI's in 574 plate appearances.

He finished his career with the Boston Red Sox in 1940. He lost two full seasons recovering from a severe ankle injury suffered while hunting. Though he returned to baseball in 1935 and played six more seasons, he was limited to a utility role for the rest of his career.

Excerpt from Gelbert's SABR biography: “Ripley’s Believe It or Not” featured Charley Gelbert in 1941, noting that he “played 239 major league games with a broken leg.” Shortstop Gelbert put in four full seasons with the St. Louis Cardinals and played in back-to-back World Series, losing one and then winning one. And then an offseason hunting accident nearly ended his career. But he kept on playing, and saw duty in five more big-league seasons.

He had seemed destined for greatness. Hall of Famer and teammate Frankie Frisch said, “If he hadn’t been hurt, he would have been the best.”

Under manager Gabby Street, the 1930 Cardinals again won the National League pennant (as they had in 1926 and 1928) with a .314 team batting mark; Gelbert hit .304 and drove in 72 runs in 139 games. He had an excellent World Series; though the Cards lost to the Philadelphia Athletics in six games, Gelbert hit .353, and won praise for some outstanding fielding plays.

In 1931 the Cardinals won the pennant once more and faced off against the Athletics again, this time winning the World Series in seven games. Gelbert collected six more hits and handled 42 more chances without an error.

In November 1932, Gelbert shot himself with a 12-gauge shotgun. It was an accident. On November 16 he went hunting with four friends and a number of dogs not far from his home in Fayettesville, Pennsylvania. “It could have happened to anyone,” he said afterward. “I was talking along, carrying my gun properly, and my foot slipped. I fell backward, my feet flew up, the gun went off. …”

His foot had snagged on a hillside vine and as he tried to right himself, the other foot turned on a piece of rock. “The gun in his right hand crashed against the rocky mountain side. There was an explosion. The jar had discharged Gelbert’s gun.” The shotgun blast hit him in the left leg about four inches above the ankle. “They were afraid to loosen the boot for fear the foot would fall off. That’s how bad it looked.”

An Army surgeon who had served in World War I evaluated his foot and worried that it would need to be amputated; there were few tendons left. But treatment at Hahnemann Hospital in Philadelphia saved his foot. Gelbert told his wife, “From now on, I’ll confine myself to golf. … I know now there is nothing safe about a gun.”

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[tedzan]

TED Z

T206 Reference
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[brianp-beme]

About time I shared another E91 matchup. This one is of Frank Schulte showing his E91A (his E91B duplicates this front) and his E254 Colgan's Chips card. Although not an exact photo match, I think his E91 pretty closely matches his facial features.

Brian

[Exhibitman]

heh...

[Leon]

Cy hasn't been spotted too much lately...

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by Leon

Cy hasn't been spotted too much lately...

And gaping neck wound Cy has been out of commission for some time as well.

Brian

[Exhibitman]

1977 Cy Young Award. 1978 traded. "From Cy Young to sayonara"--Graig Nettles

[Bill77]

Goody Rosen

[Aaron Seefeldt]

Schmelzer’s… funny

[Clutch-Hitter]

1925-31 W590 by Greg Martin, on Flickr

[brianp-beme]

About time I added something to this thread. Here is another E91A card, this one of Cy Seymour (E91B of Seymour also shares same image), and the facial matches seen in the M116 Sporting Life and E254 Colgan's Chips sets.

Brian

[benge610]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

Thanks Greg, E91A cards (and nearly 1/2 the cards from E91B) deserve any boost I can give them. The artistic styling seen on the cards are not my favorite, but they definitely tried to capture the facial characteristics of the players. Here is a nice comparison of a E91A (also in E91B set) Eddie Plank and an E95 of him.

Brian

I'd like to think Tom Hughes and Eddie Plank looked a lot alike, lol.

[benge610]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

About time I added something to this thread. Here is another E91A card, this one of Cy Seymour (E91B of Seymour also shares same image), and the facial matches seen in the M116 Sporting Life and E254 Colgan's Chips sets.

Brian

At first I thought that was Harry Niles of the Red Sox.
(a little E91-C humor!)

[benge610]

I always like a card that shows Ed Walsh swingin' a bat.

[benge610]

This is still my fave:
E104-1 Harry Krause (NO World Champions Tag Line);
With Nadja Caramels back.

[benge610]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

E98 Vaughns in any color are still tough cards in the set.

... and the personal history/backstory adds so much for me. at card shows that i set up at; I pull a T206 common out of the case, out of the sleeve; hand it to a kid and ask, "How does it feel to hold a 110 yr-old baseball card?". I follow it up with, "Congratulations! You are the 837th person to touch that card, in it's lifetime. your Dad may have touched it; your Grandpa may have, even his Dad.". I then turn to the parent and say, "See, this is really what it is all about".