Will you get vaccinated against COVID once it's available?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I'm not going to admit anything because I believe what I wrote. But I will reword Post #558 to suit your narrative of the events.

Let me just say this to sum up my position. Anybody that would trust a government to have concern over their health after that same government withheld medical treatment from its own citizens is a fucking moron.

Better? Feel all warm an fuzzy now?

I don't agree that Tuskegee is relevant today but that's an accurate statement of what happened back then.

[irv]

[Republicaninmass]

Does taking Airborne count as medication? The most medication I take is probably a handful of excedrin....a year

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I don't agree that Tuskegee is relevant today...

It's relevant today because its a reminder of what a government can do to its own citizens. You can believe what you want to about the events. Heck, some people don't believe the Holocaust happened.

Do you believe the Holocaust is relevant today?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

It's relevant today because its a reminder of what a government can do to its own citizens. You can believe what you want to about the events. Heck, some people don't believe the Holocaust happened.

Do you believe the Holocaust is relevant today?

At that broad level fair enough, and yes we should learn from history including Tuskegee, and yes we always need to be vigilant against the abuse of power. That said, I just think the times are SO dramatically different in terms of media coverage and scrutiny, racial sensibilities, access to information, and many other factors that it's a pretty remote chance the government is going to repeat an experiment calculated to harm its citizens, at least as long as we have a democracy. And I don't see any analogy between Tuskegee and the current vaccines, I don't think this government or the Trump/Biden administrations have had any bad intent.

Indeed, despite how it now seems to be politicized by some, it was President Trump who, once persuaded the vaccine was the way out of the pandemic, went all in and pushed vigorously for a rapid timeline and quick action on emergency approval. Had he been reelected one wonders if the discourse would be the same.

[irv]

[vintagetoppsguy]

If the government is giving away free vaccines for the health of the nation, then why aren't they giving out free insulin and chemo?

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

If the government is giving away free vaccines for the health of the nation, then why aren't they giving out free insulin and chemo?

People can pay for that with the free money the government has been giving out.

[mattsey9]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

If the government is giving away free vaccines for the health of the nation, then why aren't they giving out free insulin and chemo?

They should be.