Organized t206 info in the American Tobacco Journal

[atx840]

Great thread, would be nice to track down the old Mastro Catalogue for these and get higher resolution scans.

(April 11-12, 2002) MastroNet Sports & Americana
#515, T206 American Tobacco Letter with Tolstoi Cobb $3,364
#516, T206 American Tobacco Letter with Uzit Jennings $3,580

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by atx840

Great thread, would be nice to track down the old Mastro Catalogue for these and get higher resolution scans.

(April 11-12, 2002) MastroNet Sports & Americana
#515, T206 American Tobacco Letter with Tolstoi Cobb $3,364
#516, T206 American Tobacco Letter with Uzit Jennings $3,580

Chris, the scans I have are bigger than they posted if you want I can email them to you.

[boneheadandrube]

"At the bottom it reads in part packing 5/5/10 cabinet size ball player picture to each carton."

What is the cabinet sized card in Sweet Caporal and Sovereign? Were they T3's without the redemption backs?

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by boneheadandrube

"At the bottom it reads in part packing 5/5/10 cabinet size ball player picture to each carton."

What is the cabinet sized card in Sweet Caporal and Sovereign? Were they T3's without the redemption backs?

I don't think they were T3's they had their own page in the journal but you had to mail in coupons for them so it could have been that some were inserted in cartons.

It mentions cabinets on a few pages I don't know that much about the cabinets but I thought in the Old Mill ads it could be H801-7's.

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[teza11]

I agree that the "cabinet" reference is related to the packaging of the picture T3/T9 redemption coupon.

A supporting pic from Craig Diamond's T3 site. Also, a picture of the coupon backside.

Jeff

[G1911]

As I understand it, the T3/T9 coupons were inserted in packs, for smokers to save and redeem. The Ledger refers to cabinets being in 500 count cartons (and it does so on other non-T206 pages, to cabinets that don't seem to correspond to any known set). I don't think this is a reference to the T3/T9 coupons as a result, they weren't in Sweet Cap or Sovereign as far as we know, and they would have been in normal packs, not 1 per 500 count carton. If they were a carton release like this, one had to smoke a fantastic number of cigarettes from brand's not mentioned on the cards or the coupons to get just one Turkey Red. There are no Sovereign prize fighter cards that this page references either.

[BRoberts]

Thanks for posting all of this. I hope it helps improve people's understanding of the information contained on the pages.

[boneheadandrube]

Originally Posted by G1911

As I understand it, the T3/T9 coupons were inserted in packs, for smokers to save and redeem. The Ledger refers to cabinets being in 500 count cartons (and it does so on other non-T206 pages, to cabinets that don't seem to correspond to any known set). I don't think this is a reference to the T3/T9 coupons as a result, they weren't in Sweet Cap or Sovereign as far as we know, and they would have been in normal packs, not 1 per 500 count carton. If they were a carton release like this, one had to smoke a fantastic number of cigarettes from brand's not mentioned on the cards or the coupons to get just one Turkey Red. There are no Sovereign prize fighter cards that this page references either.

T3 were issued with a tougher "No Redemption Back" variation where all mention of coupons and tobacco brands is absent. I think the cabinets mentioned could have been T3's intended for display or promotion at retailers given the larger 500 count box insertion? Maybe that was an initial limited release of them, followed by the coupon redemption for certain brands. Many of the poses are the same used in T206, in a way they are like "deluxe" T206's. Just a theory...