Will you get vaccinated against COVID once it's available?

[Mark17]

The vaccine for Covid is free. Not sure what the general debate about health care has to do with it.

[jgannon]

Originally Posted by Mark17

The vaccine for Covid is free. Not sure what the general debate about health care has to do with it.

The vaccines are free, and the tests are free. But for many people who had covid and were in the hospital, they are facing absolute financial ruin.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Mark17

The vaccine for Covid is free.

Also, the tests are free.


Who's really paying for them?

Dont underestimate a man's intentions when profit is at stake.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Also, the tests are free.


Who's really paying for them?

Don't underestimate a man's intentions when profit is at stake.

AstraZeneca, as most likely know, has been banned in many countries throughout the world then deemed safe then back to being banned again, including my country, Canada.
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...ses-specialist

Yesterday, as a whole bunch were set to expire tomorrow, May 31st, have now been given the OK by our Federal Liberal gov't to be used for another month past the expiry date!
https://globalnews.ca/news/7904824/h...iration-dates/

Does it really surprise anyone now who doesn't understand the hesitancy of some to get the vaccines when, since the very beginning, there has been nothing but a bunch of flip flopping back and forth with information on the whole pandemic schmazel, and even to this day, well into year 2, it is still continuing??

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by irv

AstraZeneca, as most likely know, has been banned in many countries...

There was a time in March when the vaccine was banned in all these countries simultaneously:

Sweden
Germany
France
Denmark
Norway
Iceland
Bulgaria
Ireland
Netherlands
Italy
Spain
Cyprus
Indonesia
Portugal
Latvia
Slovenia
Luxembourg
Tialand
The Democratic Republic of Congo

I don't know which countries (if any) have since resumed use. Nothing to see here though. Keep moving along...

[irv]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

There was a time in March when the vaccine was banned in all these countries simultaneously:

Sweden
Germany
France
Denmark
Norway
Iceland
Bulgaria
Ireland
Netherlands
Italy
Spain
Cyprus
Indonesia
Portugal
Latvia
Slovenia
Luxembourg
Tialand
The Democratic Republic of Congo

I don't know which countries (if any) have since resumed use. Nothing to see here though. Keep moving along...

I'm not sure either, Dave, but I do know when some have been approved if you're between the age of 40 and 60 it is OK to use, but then it gets changed again to if you're 55 or younger, it is not it is not to be used, it sure doesn't reek like they know very much about it nor the possible harm it can do!

The thing is, which I have never found out, is why is it only safe if you are a certain age or between a certain age?? Why is there no explanation from the "trust the science" "trust the studies" or other supposed experts crowd????
https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...ed-2021-04-20/
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/143445...s-blood-clots/
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56744474

"The road keeps getting bumpier for a vaccine that most researchers say is safe and effective and has huge potential to protect large swathes of the world’s population. Less than a day after the University of Oxford and the pharmaceutical firm AstraZeneca reported positive early results from the largest trial so far of their COVID-19 vaccine, officials at a US government agency overseeing the trial questioned claims about the vaccine’s efficacy"

"Lingering questions over the latest trial are “a real mess”, he adds"

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00785-7

[irv]

"Dr. Peter McCullough discusses the dangers of the novel COVID vaccine and it's roll out. This is a product that had minimal testing but is being pushed on the masses. Must we all get the shot for things to "go back to normal"?
https://rumble.com/vhp8e1-massive-wo...d-vaccine.html

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

There was a time in March when the vaccine was banned in all these countries simultaneously:

Sweden
Germany
France
Denmark
Norway
Iceland
Bulgaria
Ireland
Netherlands
Italy
Spain
Cyprus
Indonesia
Portugal
Latvia
Slovenia
Luxembourg
Tialand
The Democratic Republic of Congo

I don't know which countries (if any) have since resumed use. Nothing to see here though. Keep moving along...

A few things in this thread are not true or contested. For example there is no Tialand (presumably with a capitol of Bang Cock).

Otherwise the information rolled out in this thread is twisted and turned by political agendas and a lack of factual evidence but with evolving ever changing interpretations of data. In our age of disappearing gender identity, I would assert that with his spins and flips, our leader Dr. Fauci would have easily defeated Dorothy Hamill in the 1976 Olympics, and should be remembered for his Gold Medal.

But, alas, I have no photographic evidence of Fauci on ice skates.

Just to add to the mix of hogwash, I was shown a video yesterday of a portly woman in a green dress who claimed that everyone over 70 who had been vaccinated would be dead in three years. I hope to disprove her claim of which I disapprove.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I've never seen more confirmation bias in my life than in the discourse on the virus and the vaccines, and I am not pretending I am (pardon the pun) immune to it. But the way people gravitate towards the people and other sources that support their pre-existing agendas/politics/attitudes is quite clear. Maybe it's always the way I don't know. Who among us can honestly say he has been truly agnostic in evaluating all the information available?

[Republicaninmass]

His flip flopping would rival Nadia Comaneci

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Who among us can honestly say he has been truly agnostic in evaluating all the information available?

I have. From the very beginning, when some politicians said the virus didn't originate from the lab that had been studying (developing) viruses just a few miles from the first victims, I knew there would be a massive cover-up going on with all aspects of the killer virus. It could've been considered a preemptive strike and act of war by China, IMO. But, timed as it was, with our country in a divisive election cycle, China never faced, and never will face, the consequences they deserve for creating and unleashing this thing on the world.

So I took it all with healthy cynicism. When it came to deciding what to do, I looked at the danger posed by the virus, I considered the ethics and expertise of our drug industry, and decided to trust Moderna or Johnson & Johnson. So I got the shot. Politics had zero to do with it.

To sum it up, when I realized I was being lied to, I tuned the noise out. I made my decision based on the reality of the virus, my relative vulnerability, and my confidence in our (mostly) free market drug companies.

[G1911]

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[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

A few things in this thread are not true or contested. For example there is no Tialand (presumably with a capitol of Bang Cock).

Otherwise the information rolled out in this thread is twisted and turned by political agendas and a lack of factual evidence but with evolving ever changing interpretations of data. In our age of disappearing gender identity, I would assert that with his spins and flips, our leader Dr. Fauci would have easily defeated Dorothy Hamill in the 1976 Olympics, and should be remembered for his Gold Medal.

But, alas, I have no photographic evidence of Fauci on ice skates.

Just to add to the mix of hogwash, I was shown a video yesterday of a portly woman in a green dress who claimed that everyone over 70 who had been vaccinated would be dead in three years. I hope to disprove her claim of which I disapprove.

Beware the Ides of March, and portly women in green dresses predicting the future...