Will you get vaccinated against COVID once it's available?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

Anecdotal evidence is either valid, or it is not. I do not think it is worth much of anything, but anecdotal evidence that supports the pro-fear agenda should be equally inadmissible as the anti-fear agenda then.

Nobody in my peer group has had a tough time with Covid at all. 2 of have had a tough time with what appear to be from the vaccination. I don't think this means anything, as the anecdotal is inherently difficult to validate and relies on marginal sample sizes.

I'd like to see the other argument held to the same standard though, those reporting the opposite experience in their circle should also be referred to non-anecdotal evidence. That never seems to happen.

As one of my favorite sites likes to say, the plural of anecdote is not data. But there is a lot of data out there on which to draw, although one can debate its significance.

[G1911]

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[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

Now that's a good line.

Science based medicine. You might like it, they are fond of pointing out various logical fallacies in arguments made by advocates of some positions. They love deconstructing appeal to nature arguments, for example.

[Casey2296]

The problem with the US system is that we try to blend freedom of choice with absence of responsibility from the consequences of choices that go bad. This is true of pretty much every system we have, not just healthcare.

Best observation in this whole thread.

“Freedom makes a huge requirement of every human being. With freedom comes responsibility. For the person who is unwilling to grow up, the person who does not want to carry his own weight, this is a frightening prospect.”

-Eleanor Roosevelt

[irv]

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[packs]

Does the meritocracy healthcare system apply to everyone equally? Professional sports careers will be short. Every football player knows the risks of the game. Broken legs will equal certain death and well earned I guess if they knew what could happen.

[jgannon]

The problem with the "absence of responsibility" argument of course is that the vaccines didn't go through the normal trials and protocols. You can't blame someone for being cautious about the vaccines which thus far have only been authorized for emergency use and haven't been fully approved. The track record of the lawsuit-ridden pharmaceutical industry is also a concern, given their history of often approving the drug first, and asking questions later.

Further, denying somebody care if they didn't get a colonoscopy is an arrogant and socioeconomically myopic thing to say. Many people simply CAN'T AFFORD health insurance. And they're not driving around in gold Cadillacs. Millions of people lost their jobs and their health insurance due to the pandemic. And there were already millions who didn't have health insurance before it - who were working full time, often at more than one job.

The vaccines might be the greatest thing since sliced bread. But for the time being, I understand and respect people not wanting to get one. I also understand and respect people willing to get one. It's a personal decision at this point.