Question on ebay returns (after 30 days)

[hcv123]

Originally Posted by Jobu

1 and 2 you are definitely covered no matter what the seller says. They sold you things that Ebay-approved experts say are not as described.

The trimmed card depends. If it was a listing for just a card with no statements on guaranteeing a grade, only that it is real, then to me that one is probably on you. If the description, or a message exchange, had the seller saying that it was unaltered, then that would definitely qualify for a return as well.

unless stated otherwise. A seller is responsible for an accurate description - selling a card without mentioning an alteration is not accurate (imo).

[x2drich2000]

Originally Posted by hcv123

unless stated otherwise. A seller is responsible for an accurate description - selling a card without mentioning an alteration is not accurate (imo).

If the seller didn't mention anything about condition than he also hasn't misrepresented the condition. The buyer had the card and could make his own decision within the return period. Why does a seller have to accept the opinion of a 3rd party that they may not trust and extend the return period as a result? I think it would be fair to say not everyone trusts PSA and there is plenty of documentation to show they can be wrong. People should take responsibility for their own decisions and not rely on others. That said, Ebay being Ebay they probably would agree with the buyer so it makes more sense as a seller to just take the return and move on.

[hcv123]

Originally Posted by x2drich2000

If the seller didn't mention anything about condition than he also hasn't misrepresented the condition. The buyer had the card and could make his own decision within the return period. Why does a seller have to accept the opinion of a 3rd party that they may not trust and extend the return period as a result? I think it would be fair to say not everyone trusts PSA and there is plenty of documentation to show they can be wrong. People should take responsibility for their own decisions and not rely on others. That said, Ebay being Ebay they probably would agree with the buyer so it makes more sense as a seller to just take the return and move on.

regarding a discrepancy of opinion on IF the card in fact is trimmed or has any alteration for that matter. That said, I do believe it incumbent on a seller to be "expert" enough to be able to recognize and disclose alteration if it exists and if they make an honest mistake to stand behind the product they are selling.

[TedWill1939]

I'll be in the minority and ask what happened to caveat emptor? Expecting ebay sellers to be experts is a bit of a misnomer. Plenty of folks selling things from their basements and yard sle pick ups not everyone is a "dealer". I think it is up to the collector to have the knowledge about what they are buying. 30 day return policies leave the door wide open to abuse. Seems to me that 7 days should be enough time to figuire out what we have bought, by relying on our own wisdom or opinions from trusted collectors. IMO, deals should be completed in a timely manner, if you come out wrong, its a lesson learned.

[RL]

file a inad through ebay....

if that fails, if you paid through paypal, file a inad through paypal....

if that fails, if you payment was with a cc, file a chargeback with your credit card

good luck