T206 Magie (PSA 1) on eBay altered?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by atx840

"Thank you! The card has been taken down and the owner will have the card reviewed by PSA."

And if PSA OK's that one, the legitimacy of PSA and its new ownership is dead.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

And if PSA OK's that one, the legitimacy of PSA and its new ownership is dead.

And if they take it off the market the new owners and PSA will have redeemed themselves?

There have been so many of these presented to them--that scream having been altered--so would one more of those really hurt them? I think they could leave it in the holder and it would have no further impact on their rep. People will post how horrible they are and then the same guys bid in the next big auction and buy a 200K card in a PSA slab or spend 600K on several and then do it again a month later. Those guys are my favorite.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

And if they take it off the market the new owners and PSA will have redeemed themselves?

There have been so many of these presented to them--that scream having been altered--so would one more of those really hurt them? I think they could leave it in the holder and it would have no further impact on their rep. People will post how horrible they are and then the same guys bid in the next big auction and buy a 200K card in a PSA slab or spend 600K on several and then do it again a month later. Those guys are my favorite.

Well maybe I overstated it a bit but I like hyperbole sometimes.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Well maybe I overstated it a bit but I like hyperbole sometimes.

Oh I know. I am just commenting on their Teflon nature which is all due to the PSA collectors. Just when ya think PSA cannot possibly take that position, they do and it does not adversely impact them. Collectors complain but go right back to supporting the company and they sorta have to since they are all in on PSA holders.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Oh I know. I am just commenting on their Teflon nature which is all due to the PSA collectors. Just when ya think PSA cannot possibly take that position, they do and it does not adversely impact them. Collectors complain but go right back to supporting the company and they sorta have to since they are all in on PSA holders.

Not only can they thrive amid a massive scandal, they can basically shut down their operations and not be affected.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Not only can they thrive amid a massive scandal, they can basically shut down their operations and not be affected.

Comes as no surprise to me. Just look at the registry and that speaks nothing of those who have material amounts tied up in PSA holders who do not have registered collections. I would say they can do whatever they want and they will be forgiven.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Comes as no surprise to me. Just look at the registry and that speaks nothing of those who have material amounts tied up in PSA holders who do not have registered collections. I would say they can do whatever they want and they will be forgiven.

Yeah. If the truth means your holdings take a huge hit, maybe you can't handle the truth. Probably explains much of the indifference we see out there, and PSA's cockiness in playing ostrich.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

And if they take it off the market the new owners and PSA will have redeemed themselves?

Are the new owners searching for redemption already? There are so many scandals, it’s sometimes difficult to keep up. I could have missed one.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

And if they take it off the market the new owners and PSA will have redeemed themselves?

There have been so many of these presented to them--that scream having been altered--so would one more of those really hurt them? I think they could leave it in the holder and it would have no further impact on their rep. People will post how horrible they are and then the same guys bid in the next big auction and buy a 200K card in a PSA slab or spend 600K on several and then do it again a month later. Those guys are my favorite.

I don't care for PSA or SGC grading but I still buy cards in their holders. I just don't go by what they opined. I am more careful than they are.





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