T206 Wagner - what grade would you receive?

[hcv123]

Originally Posted by Bigdaddy

I don't think it's so much who sends it in as who is on the front of the card.

Simply amazing what the TPGs peddle, and we (the hobby) keep throwing money at them like baseballs at batting practice.

+1

[PhillyFan1883]

Hard 1 if this was graded now raw.

[glynparson]

Old grade. Like it or not standards have changed. Had you sent it in when this one was you’d have gotten a 2 now you’d most likely get a one. Every single company that has been around for any amount of time in the grading business has tightened their standards. You can like it or hate it but it is what it is.

[philliesfan]

If it was mine, I would get "Not Authentic".
If it was someone else's, they would get at least a 1.
Bob

[Rhotchkiss]

As we learned from the “A” that recently sold in Heritage for $2.5mm, grade is not so relevant to value with this card.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

As we learned from the “A” that recently sold in Heritage for $2.5mm, grade is not so relevant to value with this card.

In a rising market timing is everything. That card sold at the peak of the hype. There was new money being thrown around. Now that the new money has been burned, prices are settling down. PSA 10 Jordan RC sold for 738k with several 600k+ sales. Now sales are in the 300k range with a 288k sale.

If that Wagner sold today, it would sell for much less. That card had at least 4 places of paper loss on the face of the card. A much nicer one sold for less a two months later.

[Rhotchkiss]

We will never know, but I think if that A sold today it would still fetch close to $2mm with the provenance. And the ugly 2 that is topic of this thread just shattered records at $3.6mm. While the market is no doubt cooling, I think the t206 wagner is Teflon and mostly unaffected

[sportscardpete]

Originally Posted by rats60

In a rising market timing is everything. That card sold at the peak of the hype. There was new money being thrown around. Now that the new money has been burned, prices are settling down. PSA 10 Jordan RC sold for 738k with several 600k+ sales. Now sales are in the 300k range with a 288k sale.

If that Wagner sold today, it would sell for much less. That card had at least 4 places of paper loss on the face of the card. A much nicer one sold for less a two months later.

I don't know if the Wagner is subject to the same volatility as the Jordan.