Will you get vaccinated against COVID once it's available?

[irv]

Follow the science.

How many times have they flip flopped on this vaccine?? I have honestly lost count, but that also goes with the rest of the narrative. From masks don't do anything to wear 2, it's on surfaces to no its not. I could go on here but it's a waste of time.
Everyone up here also seems to have forgotten that the original advice was to get both shots within a couple/few weeks of each other to be effective, but because our Federal gov't didn't procure enough, they say waiting up to 4 months now or longer is OK too????

Ontario will no longer offer first doses of AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine

TORONTO -- Ontario will no longer offer first doses of the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine due to an increase in reports of rare blood clots.

The announcement was made by Ontario’s Chief Medical Officer of Health Dr. David Williams on Tuesday afternoon.

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-w...cine-1.5423379

Now our Federal gov't, again, because he didn't procure enough vaccines, is talking about mixing them but yet there is no confirmed/verified data about the health risks nor if mixing them will actually do anything???

I'm sure the "science" will come out and eventually tell us mixing them is OK, but I imagine, just like the AstraZeneca vaccine, in a few weeks, they will tell us differently.
https://www.cp24.com/news/u-k-study-...ines-1.5425549

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipUn5goyM2I

What a mess!

[tschock]

To those on all sides of the 'speed to market' issue of the vaccine, maybe we should serious consider this: Are we taking too much time to approve everything else?

[Republicaninmass]

"All SUNY and CUNY schools will require vaccinations for all in-person students beginning Fall 2021. This requirement is subject to the FDA providing a full approval for the vaccine, beyond the current emergency use authorization. Certain medical and religious exemptions will be permitted. "


Yes you gotta have faith a-faith a-faith!

I have a feeling we see some growth in religious catagories

[irv]

B.C. man has part of small intestine removed due to vaccine-induced blood clot

"I really wish they had let us know what “worse case scenario” might look like...""


https://www.torontosun.com/news/loca...f-81de5fd6d4c0

Manitoba Chief Microbiologist and Laboratory Specialist: 56% of positive “cases” are not infectious

"PCR testing was invented to find genetic viral material in a sample and has not traditionally been used as the sole method for identifying people suffering from a viral or bacterial disease"

And of course the media spin, or what they tell you.

"Finally, it should be noted that some Canadian news agencies have quoted Dr. Bullard as testifying that a positive PCR tests indicates infectivity 99.9% of the time. This is incorrect. Rather, Dr. Bullard testified that a PCR test will detect any viral RNA that is present in a sample 99.9% of the time. However, Dr. Bullard testified that determining whether or not a sample is actually infectious (containing a viable virus, capable of replicating) needs to be confirmed by lab culture. As noted, only 44% of the “positive” samples using a Ct of 18 returned a viable lab culture. Samples tested at a Ct of over 25, according to Dr. Bullard’s report, produced no viable lab cultures"

https://www.jccf.ca/manitoba-chief-m...7YnWc-PlDM2I18

[vintagetoppsguy]

Bill Maher diagnosed with Covid...after being fully vaccinated.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Bill Maher diagnosed with Covid...after being fully vaccinated.

Damn, that just invalidates the whole thing.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Bill Maher diagnosed with Covid...after being fully vaccinated.

nobody ever said it was 100% lol

I wonder if he had a "case" or was asymtomatic, and needed to test everyday, as many of us in "MY TRILLION" dollar business have to do.


Unprecedented use of the word unprecedented

1st time the world shuts down

1st time PCR tests used as sole method for diagnosis of viral disease

1st time rna vaccine use

1st time vaccine rolled out, before fully approved


forgot one

1st time the medical term "case" is used for something which shows NO symptoms. That is known as asymptomatic for the folks just catching on

[irv]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

nobody ever said it was 100% lol

I wonder if he had a "case" or was asymtomatic, and needed to test everyday, as many of us in "MY TRILLION" dollar business have to do.


Unprecedented use of the word unprecedented

1st time the world shuts down

1st time PCR tests used as sole method for diagnosis of viral disease

1st time rna vaccine use

1st time vaccine rolled out, before fully approved


forgot one

1st time the medical term "case" is used for something which shows NO symptoms. That is known as asymptomatic for the folks just catching on

It's proven everyday............ the vaccine does not prevent contraction nor transmission with countless scores of people being vaccinating then testing positive......

Now, which totally blows my mind, they are pushing this crap on children which, statistically speaking, affects 0.000% of them.

And oh yeah, someone said they weren't pushing these on people at all.
I'm sure AOC is now pissed that beef is being used as a lure with climate change and all but these must be vegan burgers I assume?.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CO0lpsNl..._web_copy_link

[frankbmd]

I participated in the first clinical trial of the Salk Polio Vaccine. I don't think I ever found out whether I got the real deal or a placebo, but I didn't get polio.

The mRNA vaccines (which are new) have been created and released in warp speed because they have been working on the methodology for nearly 20 years in the lab. The timing of COVID was fortuitous, allowing the vaccines to be introduced quickly. At this point they seem to be some of the most effective vaccines ever made.

The standard "flu shot" is a bit of a crap shoot after they spin to roulette wheel to pick which one to recommend. With mRNA the vaccine is much more specific for the target disease. It's not 100%, but very little in medicine is. I had no hesitation to get Pfizered. My risk is reduced for both getting the disease, getting hospitalized and getting buried.

I wore a mask in the operating room for thirty years. Not sure how effective they were, but they did keep my saliva out the wound. My glasses fell into a belly once though. I believe the mask mania has been excessive. I have played golf daily (almost) for the last year without a mask. The better safe than sorry argument is a bit difficult to defend regarding masks. The anti-vaxxers are on thin ice as well in my opinion.

I suspect that the risk of law suits has something to do with businesses being more than willing to be compliant with government recommendations. I do comply as well when I go to the post office and grocery store though. I did go to an upscale restaurant recently and was called out for removing my mask before I was seated. We were able to eat without masks, even between bites.

If you scare folks consistently they ultimately will accept fear as their modus operandi. Messaging during the COVID era has been remarkably poor, which is most unfortunate. Give me the information without the politics and garbage and let me freely choose how much risk I'm willing to take.

When HIV hit in the eighties, as a surgeon, I felt more endangered personally in the operating room working on HIV patients than I do now regarding COVID.

I have not read this thread, so if this is all redundant, I apologize.
I am a retired board certified general surgeon, not that that matters.
The cards i have listed in BST come from a COVID free home.

[Peter_Spaeth]

There were serious doubts about the polio vaccine too.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...accine/303946/

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

There were serious doubts about the polio vaccine too.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...accine/303946/

If I remember correctly, the problem with the polio vaccine was isolated to one facility where it was produced. One batch of product was tainted with live virus as a result of a manufacturing error. Otherwise I believe the vaccine was quite successful. How many people do you know that have had polio sixty some years later? I know one (1).

[Peter_Spaeth]

The piece is more about efficacy than safety. Apparently the Salk vaccine was actually not that effective, and it wasn't until the Sabin vaccine subsequent to the article that the disease really was eradicated.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

How many people do you know that have had polio sixty some years later? I know one (1).

Pretty effective! Once for life!

Now, how many are still getting covid after vaccine? You can stop.counting at 2