Q. For Kevin Lenane (Genamint and PSA)

[Arazi4442]

Originally Posted by kevinlenane

Hi - so to answer you question - yes the tech does detect pressed corners. They wind up not being flat and are at a different angle (and pixel color/contrast. The question of whether or not the pressed corner constitutes willing/obvious alteration would be up the human accompanying the software - and the grade would be impacted if that is the case. Corners can also look pressed when they are simply damaged so there is some human judgement there. This is a great example of how tech and humans can work together to make the grading process faster AND more accurate - the tech flags the cards and the grader judges them....

My personal take on corner damage would basically be a more traditional view - so in any case where you are pressing the card down with some kind of tool/press then it feels like alteration but if you are just folding the corner you damaged back down with you finger thats probably okay. Of course there is nuance and any damage anywhere is technically an "alteration" in the dictionary sense of the word - but id think if you are doing anything that could potentially change the thickness of the card you've probably crossed a line.

Appreciate you taking the time to respond. Really looking forward to see this technology play out.

[Jim F]

Flattened corners from a screwdown or otherwise are returned by Psa as N5 -Altered Stock

[Johnny630]

Pressing Out A Corner to me Is a Alteration.....you will notice the paper stock is thinned out towards the corners/edges......this I have a issue with and is crossing the line.

A corner flip laid down with the slightest of pressure imo is not, that will not thin out the card stock.

Doing the former is crossing the line to me and I considered it being doctored and NO Good to Get a Number Grade.... that’s just me Idk

[Lorewalker]

Below is an April 21st interview with Kevin and Nat Turner. AI seems like it could improve the grading process overall however I was not too comforted by Turner's abhorrence of resubmissions. He should be this upset over his graders slabbing so many expensive blatantly altered cards. Not be upset with collectors second guessing the grading room and resubmitting a card when they disagree with the grade. Not sure Turner is the guy I want running PSA.

https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts...e-q6xVPgCFJD9/

[Johnny630]

He uses the term “Fingerprinting”

What exactly does this mean ? He says he doesn’t like cracking and resubmitting.

Does Fingerprinting mean they place a foreign substance on the card to identify it????

This could be huge?

[swarmee]

No, it's the same thing BODA does: identifies unique fibers in the paper or printing flaws that specifically refer to that exact copy of the card.

[Johnny630]

Very Interesting….