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Old 04-28-2021, 05:49 PM
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Trying to legit a card like this especially with the auto through pictures online is tough, got to be held in hand..
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I saw NOTHING that led me to believe that it is NOT a GENUINE '33 Goudey...

Stock is right, felt right, smelled right, printing looked correct, etc. - it passes MY "Stink Test"!


I stand behind my assessment above that the autograph is very very close and could certainly be authentic. I’d need to see it in hand however. I know Ruth extremely well and have studied it extensively. This simply looks like he condensed his signature to fit it in the space. This is more than likely authentic.
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I saw NOTHING that led me to believe that it is NOT a GENUINE '33 Goudey...

Stock is right, felt right, smelled right, printing looked correct, etc. - it passes MY "Stink Test"!


I stand behind my assessment above that the autograph is very very close and could certainly be authentic. I’d need to see it in hand however. I know Ruth extremely well and have studied it extensively. This simply looks like he condensed his signature to fit it in the space. This is more than likely authentic.
And how would you explain the difference in pen pressure? That too since his signature was condensed?

Maybe it was a windy card and the card kept flapping around while he was trying to sign


Sadly, whether he did, or didnt sign, it only matters what a TPGs opinion is, and doubtful this would pass
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And how would you explain the difference in pen pressure? That too since his signature was condensed?

Maybe it was a windy card and the card kept flapping around while he was trying to sign


Sadly, whether he did, or didnt sign, it only matters what a TPGs opinion is, and doubtful this would pass
Whether authentic or not... the variance in pen pressure throughout the sig is a relatively common phenomenon. Some of Babe's sigs had uniform ink distribution throughout, but many did not. The fountain pens of the day were touchy and often unpredictable. A slight increase in pressure could easily result in a much darker/bolder line. Just a few examples of authentic sigs below...
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And how would you explain the difference in pen pressure? That too since his signature was condensed?



Maybe it was a windy card and the card kept flapping around while he was trying to sign





Sadly, whether he did, or didnt sign, it only matters what a TPGs opinion is, and doubtful this would pass
I am no expert but I have not seen an authentic signed Ruth Goudey where he signs in open space only instead of across the image.

Obviously that doesn't mean much but just an observation.

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The buyer at $6500 plus buyer commission either hit a grand slam, if authentic, or struck out 27 straight times if not.

I saw a 1956 Topps set sold for $13,500 plus commission and a 1957 Topps set at $11,000 plus commission. No way to tell from the description and pictures the condition but those are strong bids unless the sets were very nice.
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The buyer at $6500 plus buyer commission either hit a grand slam, if authentic, or struck out 27 straight times if not.

I saw a 1956 Topps set sold for $13,500 plus commission and a 1957 Topps set at $11,000 plus commission. No way to tell from the description and pictures the condition but those are strong bids unless the sets were very nice.
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Nobody would choose to make $6,500 over $50,000+ unless it wasn't possible to make $50,000+. There is only one reason it wouldn't be possible. I guess two reasons if the card is not authentic.

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