1912/13 George Moriarty photo help

[JollyElm]

I worked the tone, contrast, etc., and enlarged it to show the three faces...

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[Mark17]

In 1912 Cincinnati wore shirts like that, with nothing on the chest and "C" on each sleeve.

Cincinnati had a coach in 1912, Heinie Peitz, who would've been 41 and looks something like the guy in the photo. He was 5' 11" which might be close enough to be him, considering Moriarty isn't standing straight up and the other guy is.

[milkit1]

Excellent work Mark! I think you maybe right. It does resemble Peitz. The only thing now throwing me off is his dark cap. Did the Reds use a dark cap with an emblem in 1912?

[milkit1]

Here is a few more pics from around that time. Certainly does resemble him. Interestingly Peitz played 3 games for the Cards in 1913 after not playing in any since 1906.

[milkit1]

Here is a team shot of the reds from 1912 showing Peitz.
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[RUKen]

Originally Posted by milkit1

Excellent work Mark! I think you maybe right. It does resemble Peitz. The only thing now throwing me off is his dark cap. Did the Reds use a dark cap with an emblem in 1912?

It appears to be a Detroit cap. Possibly, this is a photo taken in spring training of 1913, with the man on the left wearing his (Cincinnati?) uniform from the previous year, except for a Detroit cap on his head.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by RUKen

It appears to be a Detroit cap. Possibly, this is a photo taken in spring training of 1913, with the man on the left wearing his (Cincinnati?) uniform from the previous year, except for a Detroit cap on his head.

It looks like a similar cap to the picture on Baseball Reference.

[RUKen]

Originally Posted by Mark17

It looks like a similar cap to the picture on Baseball Reference.

No; that photo is from 1903. Here are the mystery man, and Hughey Jennings in a 1913 Detroit cap:

[milkit1]

Originally Posted by Mark17

It looks like a similar cap to the picture on Baseball Reference.

It could be

[RUKen]

Here is Heinie Peitz from a 1912 Cincinnati team photo, and the mystery man. It looks like a match, but there is no way he's wearing a 10-year old Reds' cap. That's an old-English D above the bill.

[milkit1]

Originally Posted by Mark17

It looks like a similar cap to the picture on Baseball Reference.

I will get better scan once ita in hand. Hopefully that will help