Hey, pennant guys

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by Domer05

It's a great idea. But, I haven't thought to do it. Wish I knew how....

Does anyone else know how to PDF Kyle’s blogs into one file? Maybe someone who works at a university.......?

[bocca001]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Does anyone else know how to PDF Kyle’s blogs into one file? Maybe someone who works at a university.......?

I'm pretty sure that anyone can "print" just about anything as a PDF (which saves it as a pdf), if you have the right version of Adobe.

However: I grew up right in the middle of Silicon Valley, my dad worked at some of the earliest Silicon Valley companies (i.e., at Fairchild "growing" the Silicon chips), but I'm about the least tech-saavy person around.

[bocca001]

I'm glad that Rob got the Green-Giant. It was in nice condition. I had actually offered a bit more for it a few weeks ago, but the guy turned it down. Too bad for him. My favorite one in that family is the blue and yellow for some reason. The colors are so wrong for the Giants that they are right for that pennant. Would love to find one of those.

I did finally get this Giants 1958 pitcher pennant. I have several versions without the 1958, but always passed on this one hoping to get it at a lower price. And Erik won't trade me his

Someday I'll take my own picture of it (it is in nicer condition than the photo suggests).

[Fballguy]

Here's a team we don't talk about much but I thought this was interesting...This pennant was included in a lot I recently picked up and it's bit of an odd ball. 1970 Asco Trademark (I believe) but the pennant is soft felt. Not cloth. Not the stiff "felt". Really soft felt. Not sure I've come across a felt pennant post 1970. The topic seems vaguely familiar. Not sure if we've discussed previously?

And then, while doing some research on the pennant, I came across this recent sale of a different Brewers pennant. At first glance, it doesn't look like anything special. But, per the tax exclusive price, it appears this pennant really sold for $175 (not including $9.75 shipping and tax). Is it that rare or was the sale a fluke?

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Here's a team we don't talk about much but I thought this was interesting...This pennant was included in a lot I recently picked up and it's bit of an odd ball. 1970 Asco Trademark (I believe) but the pennant is soft felt. Not cloth. Not the stiff "felt". Really soft felt. Not sure I've come across a felt pennant post 1970. The topic seems vaguely familiar. Not sure if we've discussed previously?

And then, while doing some research on the pennant, I came across this recent sale of a different Brewers pennant. At first glance, it doesn't look like anything special. But, per the tax exclusive price, it appears this pennant really sold for $175 (not including $9.75 shipping and tax). Is it that rare or was the sale a fluke?

Top pennant is Trench. They have some with a 1970 trademark, I have a Trench Dodgers with 1970 stamp. Bottom pennant is ASCO. Easiest way to tell is the spine and the MLB in fat letters. Early 70s felt was still on the soft side to my knowledge. .... The ASCO here is likely a few years in, this also comes with a 1970 stamp.

$175??? Yeah that’s a lot. I’ve been noticing high prices lately for semi-common pennants. Good sign I guess.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Top pennant is Trench. They have some with a 1970 trademark, I have a Trench Dodgers with 1970 stamp. Bottom pennant is ASCO. Easiest way to tell is the spine and the MLB in fat letters. Early 70s felt was still on the soft side to my knowledge. .... The ASCO here is likely a few years in, this also comes with a 1970 stamp.

$175??? Yeah that’s a lot. I’ve been noticing high prices lately for semi-common pennants. Good sign I guess.

But this one isn't "on the soft side". It's as soft as any pennant from the 1940s. I know with football, I haven't come across it before but I'm not as close to baseball.

[perezfan]

Regarding the Brewers' price realized.... WTF?

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Here's a team we don't talk about much but I thought this was interesting...This pennant was included in a lot I recently picked up and it's bit of an odd ball. 1970 Asco Trademark (I believe) but the pennant is soft felt. Not cloth. Not the stiff "felt". Really soft felt. Not sure I've come across a felt pennant post 1970. The topic seems vaguely familiar. Not sure if we've discussed previously?

And then, while doing some research on the pennant, I came across this recent sale of a different Brewers pennant. At first glance, it doesn't look like anything special. But, per the tax exclusive price, it appears this pennant really sold for $175 (not including $9.75 shipping and tax). Is it that rare or was the sale a fluke?

Gotta be a fluke....

The last time I sold one of those, it went for $16 and some change. Same exact pennant... purchased it new at Anaheim Stadium in 1972, and not particularly rare.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by bocca001

I did finally get this Giants 1958 pitcher pennant. I have several versions without the 1958, but always passed on this one hoping to get it at a lower price. And Erik won't trade me his

Someday I'll take my own picture of it (it is in nicer condition than the photo suggests).

Nice snag, Marc...

Now you've got me wondering who made this oddball series of pennants from the late '50s - early '60s.

Perhaps it's already been discussed but this grouping seems like a "one-off", featuring a very distinct look and certainly not made for all teams. Any idea which maker is responsible for these?

[bocca001]

I think that these are WGN and that Kyle has a bunch pictured on his website.

I know that there are several versions of the Giants. Soft felt. Stiffer felt. With the 1958. Without. Bright colors. All grey or white. I think baseball Rob has a good number of them.

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Nice snag, Marc...

Now you've got me wondering who made this oddball series of pennants from the late '50s - early '60s.

Perhaps it's already been discussed but this grouping seems like a "one-off", featuring a very distinct look and certainly not made for all teams. Any idea which maker is responsible for these?

Definitely WGN of Chicago. As far as we know, this series began in 1958 (it includes dated LA Dodgers and SF Giants pennants) and ended about 1970 (there's a Reds pennant referencing them as "Big Red Machine").

Some of the early pennants from the series, such as the Braves one shown above, bear a mark from the "G.B. Feld Co." of Chicago. According to WGN, they used this pennant maker at different points in time in the company's history, e.g., when outsourcing made financial sense.

Many of the pennants from this series featured an illuminated stadium, a bat-skewered baseball, and/or a team slogan, e.g., "Sock it to'em" for the '68 Tigers.

[Duluth Eskimo]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Nice snag, Marc...

Now you've got me wondering who made this oddball series of pennants from the late '50s - early '60s.

Perhaps it's already been discussed but this grouping seems like a "one-off", featuring a very distinct look and certainly not made for all teams. Any idea which maker is responsible for these?

I love these pennants. These are some of the versions that initially drew me to pennants back in the late 80’s. Those and the 50’s Milwaukee Braves.

[perezfan]

Thanks Marc, Kyle and Jason... Great info as always.

I believe these WGN pennants were sold outside of ballparks as opposed to inside of stadiums. When I first started collecting (back in the dark ages), a veteran dealer/collector referred to these specifically as "Vendor Pennants".

During this same timeframe, I believe Trench had the market cornered on pennants sold inside the stadiums. But will defer to Kyle on that!

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Thanks Marc, Kyle and Jason... Great info as always.

I believe these WGN pennants were sold outside of ballparks as opposed to inside of stadiums. When I first started collecting (back in the dark ages), a veteran dealer/collector referred to these specifically as "Vendor Pennants".

During this same timeframe, I believe Trench had the market cornered on pennants sold inside the stadiums. But will defer to Kyle on that!

That sounds about right to me, Marc. Trench definitely cozied up with ballpark concessionaires, which did put their products for sale inside venues. But, outside the venue, much like today, was a free for all.... Any street vendor could order a hundred pennants from Trench, WGN, ADFLAG, Keezer, and sell them outside for whatever price they could get.

To this end, contributors to this thread posted several photos of street vendors selling these pennants we know and love outside of ballparks. In fact, I recall a cool black and white photo of a vendor hawking an Atlanta Braves pennant by WGN from the above referenced series, not long ago.

But, because of Trench's partnership with the concessionaires, and the overall quality of their products, Trench's pennants probably sold better than anything their competitors distributed. Which is why their stuff is more prevalent on the resale market, today, I think.