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..... Piedmont ......... Sovereign ...... Sweet Caporal___The "House" that created these Tobacco cards___Piedmont #42 ........ Hindu ............ Sovereign


Six weeks have transpired since last update of this survey. Eighteen Joe Doyle cards have been added to the survey. None of which have this "Printer's Mark".
This ongoing 14-year Survey....https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=87066 indicates that 5.96 % of Doyle's are found with this printer's mark.



- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -^ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Printer's Mark - - - -^ (remnant of "N" in Nat'L)


UPDATED...... April 6, 2021 (418 unique samples)


T-brand.............Mark.....No-Mark

Piedmont 350........15..........173

Sweet Cap 350.......5...........151

Polar Bear..............4............35

Old Mill..................1.............7

Sovereign 350.........0...........19

Tolstoi....................0.............6

EPDG.....................0.............2
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Totals.................. 25 ........ 393

25 - Joe Doyle cards with this Printer's Mark...... 25/418 = 5.96 %




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........ Piedmont ......... Sovereign ....... Sweet Caporal___The "House" that created these Tobacco cards____POLAR BEAR .......... Hindu ....... American Beauty


Seldom seen are AMERICAN BEAUTY (AB) cards that are the standard size T206 dimensions..... 1 1/2" x 2 5/8". If you have any, please show them here.

I have never understood why American Lithographic cut the AB cards narrower. The AB cigarette packs were the ATC standard size containing 10 cigarettes.

If anyone here has an idea why AB cards were cut narrower, please clue us in.
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Of the 122 cards in my T206 collection with AB backs, this Davy Jones measures: 1 15/32" x 2 5/8". The back is perfectly centered, which is quite unusual.

The search is on.....for I think I may have more AMERICAN BEAUTY cards that are "fat"


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[stutor]

Hi Ted. Here are a couple 'fat' American Beauties.

[nineunder71]

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[tedzan]

Originally Posted by nineunder71

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Hi Colton

Interesting Konetchy card.

I'm assuming it's back is an AB 350....is that so ?


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[brianp-beme]

Here is a wider American Beauty 350 w/frame of Gaavy Cravath.

Brian

[tedzan]

One more "fat" AB 350.

Thank you, Brian.


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[tedzan]

Originally Posted by stutor

Hi Ted. Here are a couple 'fat' American Beauties.

Hi Sonny

Great AB cards, and Hofman and Irv Young are 350-only Series cards.

It sure looks like they missed the "chopping block" back in American Litho.


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........ Piedmont ......... Sovereign ....... Sweet Caporal___The "House" that created these Tobacco cards____POLAR BEAR .......... Hindu ....... American Beauty


This kind of stuff may not interest some of you, but it does appeal to my "Engineering mentality" The standard size dimensions of a T206 are.... 1 1/2" x 2 5/8".

It appears that American Lithographic cut the AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 cards consistently narrower than the AB 350 (frame) or AB 350 (no frame) cards. Since, I have
never seen a "FAT" AB 460 card.


350-only Series subject

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-----------------^---- 1 7/16" -------^------------------------^------------------- 1 3/8" --------------------^



Incidentally, the Davy Jones card depicted above in the prior post is a 350-only Series subject (dimensions are 1 15/32" x 2 5/8")


Furthermore, here are a couple "skinny" AB 460's. If anyone on this forum can chime in with a "fat" AB 460 card, I would love to see it.


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........ Piedmont ......... Sovereign ....... Sweet Caporal___The "House" that created these Tobacco cards____POLAR BEAR .......... Hindu ....... American Beauty


My Jessie Tannehill measures 1 7/16" wide. Only a 1/16 of an inch shy of the width of a regular T206. Plus, I prefer the framed back to be well centered (as is this one).

Show us some more of your "fat" AMERICAN BEAUTY's. Also, still waiting to see an AB 460 whose width approaches 1 1/2 inches.


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[t206fanatic]

My contribution, they are quite rare to come across

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........ Piedmont ......... Sovereign ....... Sweet Caporal___The "House" that created these Tobacco cards____POLAR BEAR .......... Hindu ....... American Beauty


Thanks Jeff....nice Egan card.


Here's a group of some of the tougher guys in the AB 460 run. Note how "skinny" they are. I need only one more T206 to complete this 74-card run.












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[brianp-beme]

Here is the other wider AB that I have, this one of Street catching. As a bonus, there is a remnant of another card on the back, and I have determined that card to be Griffith batting.

Brian