81 Fleer new variation.

[jacksoncoupage]

Originally Posted by steve B

Finished going through my "new" batch of 81 fleer that I bought for a few variations and making a checklist/spreadsheet for the set.

I was surprised that this one didn't seem to be on any lists. It's not exactly a trivial one. And it's on a card that appears to be a later printing.

There are hundreds of trivial constant varieties, that I'm pretty sure nobody else saves. Except whoever had the batch I bought.

I have listed this variation on ebay (no successful sales) probably a dozen times since 2007ish. I pulled about 25% COR to 75% ERR ratio from several 5000ct boxes of 1981 Fleer. Pretty sure I have 6-10 pairs still.

See Dwayne Henry's card for a related unlisted variation.

[ALR-bishop]

Was aware of and have Baines. Did not know about Stoddard. Is it harder to find than Baines ? They would seem to exist in equal numbers, unless like Puhl in 86 it was more likely Baines was kept and Stoddard pitched ( pun not intended)

There have been some good debates on what is and or what should be a variation in threads in here. Lemke tried to restore some order but it is chaos now. We need someone in charge of that issue, a hobby czar

[slidekellyslide]

Is the variation the red bleeding ink in the name? If so I’ve got a million cards with variations.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Is the variation the red bleeding ink in the name? If so I’ve got a million cards with variations.

It's not bleeding, it's red printed as part of the name for one small area. On all the normal cards the name is only in black.
The edges of the lettering a just as clear as on the black.

I have a lot of overinked cards, and this isn't one.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Was aware of and have Baines. Did not know about Stoddard. Is it harder to find than Baines ? They would seem to exist in equal numbers, unless like Puhl in 86 it was more likely Baines was kept and Stoddard pitched ( pun not intended)

There have been some good debates on what is and or what should be a variation in threads in here. Lemke tried to restore some order but it is chaos now. We need someone in charge of that issue, a hobby czar

Yes, I think it’s the same deal as the 1986 Topps Clemens-Seaver-Puhl Blue Streak, most 86 Topps Clemens and Seaver cards were saved over the past 35 years but commons like Puhl (I hope he isn’t a member here ) got tossed for lack of storage space. I would imagine MANY 1981 Fleer commons have been tossed in the last 40 years but cards such as the Baines rookies were saved. I have seen 5 to 10 of the Baines since I was aware of it but those are the only Stoddard, Reuss, and Bomback cards I have seen. I don’t know if a Bob Lacey exists.

[bobsbbcards]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

We need someone in charge of that issue, a hobby czar

I nominate you.

[ALR-bishop]

Since the catalogs are gone and PSA is making the variant decisions these days we need a graded collector type, maybe someone who has been a PSA Collector of The Year to take the lead. Who do we know like that ?

[steve B]

At the current price levels I don't think you'll find anyone.

[Rich Klein]

I found one currently on the COMC Web site and created a separate listing for that card. I think the others are not the "Red" version but if someone wants to look and see if I missed any please send a Correction Request in.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

I found one currently on the COMC Web site and created a separate listing for that card. I think the others are not the "Red" version but if someone wants to look and see if I missed any please send a Correction Request in.

I looked a week or so ago, and there seemed to be one maybe two normal ones and about 6 red ones.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by jacksoncoupage

I have listed this variation on ebay (no successful sales) probably a dozen times since 2007ish. I pulled about 25% COR to 75% ERR ratio from several 5000ct boxes of 1981 Fleer. Pretty sure I have 6-10 pairs still.

See Dwayne Henry's card for a related unlisted variation.

That's interesting. I finally went and had a look on COMC, and all but one there has the red. Looks like that mask damage happened fairly early and never got fixed.