National may be in peril

[Snapolit1]

who knows, but I wouldn't bet on it happening.

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...us-cases-rise/

[Gmrson]

I prefer to just wait for actual news from the National people.


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[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

who knows, but I wouldn't bet on it happening.

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...us-cases-rise/

Get it Out of Illinois, ASAP.

[upstateNYmilb]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Get it Out of Illinois, ASAP.

Ray Schulte was on Sports Card Nation podcast last Friday. He said there are no discussions to move it. Its just not that simple.

https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR...wNTY3NTg?ep=14

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[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by upstateNYmilb

Ray Schulte was on Sports Card Nation podcast last Friday. He said there are no discussions to move it. Its just not that simple.

https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR...wNTY3NTg?ep=14

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That's unfortunate Hopefully This Will Be the Last Year in that State.

This will Be Two Years Lost to Lock Downs by State Restrictions In IL.

[prestigecollectibles]

I spoke with Megan at the National. She said they will NOT be moving the show to a different location. The only possibility would be changing the dates. It is just too early for anyone to know what will happen at this point.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

That's unfortunate Hopefully This Will Be the Last Year in that State.

This will Be Two Years Lost to Lock Downs by State Restrictions In IL.

Last year was supposed to be in AC so I'm not sure how you get to 2 years lost because of restrictions in IL.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by jayshum

Last year was supposed to be in AC so I'm not sure how you get to 2 years lost because of restrictions in IL.

My Mistake, You're Correct, Get it Out of New Jersey Permanently too !

[David W]

Put it in Indianapolis, they seem to be able to handle the NCAA tournament

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

My Mistake, You're Correct, Get it Out of New Jersey Permanently too !

Where do you propose they should have or even could have moved it last year while the whole country was in a major pandemic the likes of which hadn’t been seen in 100 years?

[jhs5120]

Illinois just expanded vaccine eligibility on Monday. I’d imagine rates will plummet as more Americans get vaccinated. They’re planning to make it available to every adult by May 1st. Probably not enough time for a June show, but hopefully enough time for late July.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Where do you propose they should have or even could have moved it last year while the whole country was in a major pandemic the likes of which hadn’t been seen in 100 years?

Nashville Tennessee and Dallas Texas

[frankbmd]

I understand that PSA has graciously offered to grade every card at the show regardless of when or where it is held for $4,000,000,000,000.00.

And Washington does not consider sports cards infrastructure.

[Snapolit1]

National has been moved to PWCC's hermitically sealed underground vault.

[A2000]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

National has been moved to PWCC's hermitically sealed underground vault.

Is a hermetically sealed vault safe to be in with 50,000 others nowadays?

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Nashville Tennessee and Dallas Texas

I'd go. Vegas is also wide open and would be even better.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by perezfan

I'd go. Vegas is also wide open and would be even better.

Oh Yeah that would be Awesome !!!

[ThomasL]

Move it to Texas...I would advise Tarrant County (Fort Worth, Arlington) not Dallas County (Dallas)

[dafivehole]

Originally Posted by ThomasL

Move it to Texas...I would advise Tarrant County (Fort Worth, Arlington) not Dallas County (Dallas)

Agreed 100%.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Oh Yeah that would be Awesome !!!

Been through this many times. . . .yes, Vegas cool. . . .Vegas too expensive. Not like we're trading porno DVDs or anything REALLY interesting here . . . . . .

[packs]

Is it expensive? I've gotten rooms for almost nothing there. Mostly because they're getting paid through my time at the casino.

[Snapolit1]

Expensive for conventions. Apparently very. At least historically. Maybe today they'd be more accomodating.

Originally Posted by packs

Is it expensive? I've gotten rooms for almost nothing there. Mostly because they're getting paid through my time at the casino.

They could move it to Texas, Florida or Georgia. Many states are open (some have been for a while) and welcome the business. All three of those states have major convention venues and hotels to accommodate a convention of this size. I've been to various toy conventions in Arkansas, Kentucky, and Georgia this year and last year and they were not super spreaders like everyone would have you believe. Restrictions were in place and protocols followed carefully. Handled correctly it shouldn't be an issue even in Illinois. I have been on several convention committees over the years and unless they have a written contract in Illinois there is no reason it couldn't be moved. I've seen it and done it before. Takes a little work but not impossible.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Expensive for conventions. Apparently very. At least historically. Maybe today they'd be more accomodating.

I believe they can rent out a portion of the main convention center, and that there are other smaller venue options there as well.

[Piratedogcardshows]

Ugh.

[Rich Klein]

The "Biggest" Issue about moving the NSCC at this point to an "Open" State is to remember we would have to get in line behind events already scheduled for those places which had been pushed back.

Hate to say this but the NSCC can not just snap their fingers, say we want to run a show and the waters open up for us. We have to wait out turn.

Rich

[bigfish]

Move the show to Texas. Are the open states booked with events? Doubtful. Someone with alittle grit might be able to get this done.


Leon????

[Johnny630]

Let’s all Be Realistic this Year the National Can’t and Wont Be moved to a different location, it’s just to late. However in he future I hope we can chose states such as Texas, Florida, Tennessee, and Nevada... Just my Two Cents.

[egri]

As far as moving it goes, the RNC was moved from North Carolina to Florida less than 3 months out from the convention date. We are 4 months out from the National, and the RNC is much bigger and there were fewer options available last year.

[packs]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Expensive for conventions. Apparently very. At least historically. Maybe today they'd be more accomodating.

Ah, commercially expensive to rent space. Now I get it. I was thinking expensive to stay in the city.

[Santo10Fan]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Let’s all Be Realistic this Year the National Can’t and Wont Be moved to a different location, it’s just to late. However in he future I hope we can chose states such as Texas, Florida, Tennessee, and Nevada... Just my Two Cents.

I reviewed our PMs from the 2019 convention and I have to admit, I’m baffled by your comments in this thread. You took the Blue Line downtown on a magnificent summer day and took in the sights out city provides, and you thanked me for helping you navigate that trip. You need got give Illinoisans the benefit of the doubt. We’re trying and doing our best to make things better, back to the way they were. We deserve respect.

[Snapolit1]

There are many things I am really looking forward to doing this summer; first and foremost getting out and seeing a handful of baseball games. Everyone will make their own decisions, but getting into a confined indoor space with a few thousand people looking over each others' shoulders ain't high on my list. But others obviously will make different calls based on their own views.

[bounce]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Where do you propose they should have or even could have moved it last year while the whole country was in a major pandemic the likes of which hadn’t been seen in 100 years?

Please don't bomb me with should haves or I would nevers, but...

Dallas has had their show the last couple months, I'm sure most people have seen the social media and other posts regarding it - and yes I understand that show is still a fraction of what a National would be.

I think a couple of the big hold ups for Dallas/Houston being a location has been (a) Dallas may not have the best convention facilities?, and (b) Texas is a long haul for both the East Coast and West Coast folks. Pretty sure (b) is the main issue.

Both are easy flights in and out and plenty of hotel space, etc. Houston has great convention space, although the City has been preventing some big shows from happening so even here we aren't immune to that aspect.

I fear we just may not quite "be there" yet for a show like this, but we do still have nearly 4 months. I'm optimistic they can hold it, but could be "different" than in the past.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Problem is you may have 4 months but you can't wait until day 120 to make a decision.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by Santo10Fan

I reviewed our PMs from the 2019 convention and I have to admit, I’m baffled by your comments in this thread. You took the Blue Line downtown on a magnificent summer day and took in the sights out city provides, and you thanked me for helping you navigate that trip. You need got give Illinoisans the benefit of the doubt. We’re trying and doing our best to make things better, back to the way they were. We deserve respect.

I respect you and your Fellow Illinoisans. How does me saying I hope we can chose states that are open such as FL, TX, and TN disrespectful to you personally???

[drmondobueno]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

I understand that PSA has graciously offered to grade every card at the show regardless of when or where it is held for $4,000,000,000,000.00.

And Washington does not consider sports cards infrastructure.

A friend living in Wisconsin heard it was moving to Davenport.

I would go if the show moved to Tijuana, would stay in San Diego and take the train to the border. Cheap beer and tacos, I’m tellin ya. 🌮🌮🌮🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺

[arjones100]

I can't believe the organizers aren't trying to move it to an open state like Florida, Georgia, or Texas. Not having it again this year is inexcusable.

[BRoberts]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

I respect you and your Fellow Illinoisans. How does me saying I hope we can chose states that are open such as FL, TX, and TN disrespectful to you personally???

Because that's the country we now live in. So many people just looking for a reason to be offended.

[Kzoo]

^^^ THAT is spot on!

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by BRoberts

Because that's the country we now live in. So many people just looking for a reason to be offended.

I wish there was a '100 Likes' button to hit for that one.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by BRoberts

Because that's the country we now live in. So many people just looking for a reason to be offended.

I heard recently even If ONE person is offended, it has to be changed

[nolemmings]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

I heard recently even If ONE person is offended, it has to be changed

I don't doubt from the news you follow that you heard exactly that.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

I don't doubt from the news you follow that you heard exactly that.

Username an oxymoron?

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[nolemmings]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Username an oxymoron?

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Hell no I believe in the Steal, pizzagate, and whatever Friar Tucker tells me, like the true patriot that I am.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

I come here to get away from this shit, can both sides please cool it.

[slidekellyslide]

I worry that if it’s moved to a state like Texas or Florida with no restrictions at all that it could be a super spreader event. Sports cards are hotter right now than they may ever have been and the crowd could be huge. Covid is still here but too many people are acting like this is over already. My wife had to postpone a medical procedure because one of her coworkers tested positive last week. I had to postpone looking at a huge baseball card collection because the guy called me today and told me his wife has Covid. I feel like we’re spiking the ball at the one yard line. Crossing my fingers though that people continue to be vaccinated and the show can go on as scheduled in Chicago.

[egri]

I certainly don't have any experience trying to organize events of this scale, but other than possibly inclement weather, are there any obstacles to hosting it outside? Soldier Field (for example) probably isn't too busy in late July.

[BRoberts]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

I come here to get away from this shit, can both sides please cool it.

I come here to get away from profanity, so please cool it.

[Exhibitman]

Oh yeah, well your being offended by my being offended about the offensive things you posted in reply to my posts that offended you offends me.



Now everyone who lives in a legal state, smoke a bowl and watch a sunset.



Kona before the world turned stupid. Aloha...

[Santo10Fan]

If you follow Pritzker's policies, you know how he's going to play it with resuming indoor events.

Prove you're vaccinated or you don't get in.