Charles Conlon photographs and negro leagues ?

[eddieo24]

Great info and that Johnny mize ccd is nice thanks

[ALR-bishop]

This is what I have for Conlon







I do not know what colorization process was used on the color set but all of the cards in it exist in B&W in prior sets. Also, the distribution of the color set is interesting. See below. In checking I do have both Mize variants. Also have the two All Star programs with the Conlon inserts still intact.

As to the missing prototypes from my list above I was going be checklists in the SCD Standard Catalog from 2011 ( last year they did post 80 listings). Not sure lists are accurate

[ALR-bishop]

[ALR-bishop]

The 1995 Topps set had two versions of card # 3, a Conlon photo, celebrating Ruth's 100th birthday. There was also a 3C version of the card in the Conlon sets

[eddieo24]

Hi the book that is in the photo ..may i ask is that a baseball card guide ?..and from what year ?..

[ALR-bishop]

Taylor---I have no independent knowledge as to the source of the photos used in the World Wide 1933 Negro All Star set beyond the statement in the 2011 Standard Catalog that they came from the Sporting News Conlon files. I do agree that those 12 photos have a different look from those that serve as the basis for the other Conlon set

On the 3d 1991 Conlon set I need some clarity of what I am missing. I have one set where the first 67 cards have HOF and a year in a banner on the front of the cards, and the backs of those 67 have a copyright for both The Sporting News and Curtis Management. For cards 68 to 330 there is no HOF banner on the front and only The Sporting News copyright is on the backs. None of the 330 cards has the MLB logo.

The second set also has the HOF banners on the first 67 cards but also has the MLB logo in addition to the copyrights for The Sporting News and Curtis Management. From 68 to 330 there are no HOF banners but they do have the MLB logo and the Sporting News copyright ( No Curtis Management ).

Walk me through the makeup of the 3d set

[ALR-bishop]

Orioles---I would be interested in sharing a list of the promo or prototype cards we have and a list of ones we think we still need. Both of my lists are based on the checklists in the 2011 Standard Catalog

[cardinalcollector]

Al, the 1991 Conlon "Hall of Fame" stripe cards are not well known or documented. They are much tougher to find. I believe the entire 1991 Conlon set of 330 comes with and without the MLB logo on back under the card number. The 3rd variation has the first 67 HOFers come with "Hall of Fame" in the stripe on front, all without the MLB logo.

[tschock]

Originally Posted by cardinalcollector

Al, the 1991 Conlon "Hall of Fame" stripe cards are not well known or documented. They are much tougher to find. I believe the entire 1991 Conlon set of 330 comes with and without the MLB logo on back under the card number. The 3rd variation has the first 67 HOFers come with "Hall of Fame" in the stripe on front, all without the MLB logo.

Randy,

Thanks for provide the visual for Al (and others) before I could back to it. Much better than any 'description' I could have provided.

[tschock]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Taylor---I have no independent knowledge as to the source of the photos used in the World Wide 1933 Negro All Star set beyond the statement in the 2011 Standard Catalog that they came from the Sporting News Conlon files. I do agree that those 12 photos have a different look from those that serve as the basis for the other Conlon set

On the 3d 1991 Conlon set I need some clarity of what I am missing. I have one set where the first 67 cards have HOF and a year in a banner on the front of the cards, and the backs of those 67 have a copyright for both The Sporting News and Curtis Management. For cards 68 to 330 there is no HOF banner on the front and only The Sporting News copyright is on the backs. None of the 330 cards has the MLB logo.

The second set also has the HOF banners on the first 67 cards but also has the MLB logo in addition to the copyrights for The Sporting News and Curtis Management. From 68 to 330 there are no HOF banners but they do have the MLB logo and the Sporting News copyright ( No Curtis Management ).

Walk me through the makeup of the 3d set

Al,

Randy's pics above show the examples of the the 3 printings better than I described. With cards 68-330 it is at least difficult if not impossible to tell the difference between the first and second printing, since the only noticeable difference is the "Hall of Fame" vs "HOF - date" on the front of the first 67 cards. The backs are identical for the first and second printing.

Regarding Conlon NL photos. I have no direct knowledge either way as well, but was wondering if this was more of an assumption due to legend and/or poor record keeping on the TSN part that was then included in the SC as well. I'm not aware of any early NL 'type' photos from Conlon, though I am by no means an expert in that area. Just that I haven't seen any and the look/feel of the photos used for the NL cards is different from all the other Conlon photos I've seen. I would expect that any Conlon NL Type I photos would bring huge money.

Definitely a lot of Conlon material came out in the '90s. There is a Conlon 3 ring binder as well for the collection.

[ALR-bishop]

Well, now on another search. Picked up 57 of the 3d version of the first 67 yesterday ( Hall of Fame spelled out)

Still interested in comparing noted with Orioles on the promo/prototype cards

[cardinalcollector]

Another Conlon variation that is not well know. Curt Davis comes 3 ways:

1. Cardinals on front, MLB logo on back
2. Cubs on front, MLB logo on back
3. Cubs on front, NO MLB logo on back.