Mantle Prices!

[Jcosta19]

Originally Posted by LincolnVT

Im going to guess that the next PSA A 1952 Topps Mantle sells for 27k.

There is one ending in just over 3hrs on ebay. Price 20k currently.

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[Bigdaddy]

So the over/under is seven.

The wager is 'what post # in a thread like this will be the first to say 'Glad I picked up a 'XX Mantle/Mays/Ruth/Cobb/etc last year for $YK, as I'm priced out of the market now.'

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Bigdaddy

So the over/under is seven.

The wager is 'what post # in a thread like this will be the first to say 'Glad I picked up a 'XX Mantle/Mays/Ruth/Cobb/etc last year for $YK, as I'm priced out of the market now.'

Depends on who is going to try, or have to, sell

[Schlesinj]

Originally Posted by Bigdaddy

So the over/under is seven.

The wager is 'what post # in a thread like this will be the first to say 'Glad I picked up a 'XX Mantle/Mays/Ruth/Cobb/etc last year for $YK, as I'm priced out of the market now.'

I saw last night a Rogers Peer PSA 5 Ruth sold at Goldin that the exact card was bought on here last month. It sold for $8k. I suspect it sold for let’s here then Goldin.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by Jcosta19

There is one ending in just over 3hrs on ebay. Price 20k currently.

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Incredible $30,101 for an Authentic Altered.

This is good for many especially those who already have these cards

However, This is pricing many out of the key cards if they are striving for

[68Hawk]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

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However, This is pricing many out of the key cards if they are striving for

This is part of the reaction to rising prices from many I just don't understand.
Where were you guys 20 years ago when there were an endless series of cards I wanted but was priced out of?
30 years ago too to be honest.

It's like there's this thought that says some 'true collector' like which frequents this board is more entitled to a card they desire than anyone else who buys it.

Weird.

There were cards I bought 15 years ago that were a serious stretch to purchase then, but I could easily see there would come a time where that only became more difficult.
Wish someone had told the sellers back then to make it easier on me to fill holes in my collection.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by 68Hawk

This is part of the reaction to rising prices from many I just don't understand.
Where were you guys 20 years ago when there were an endless series of cards I wanted but was priced out of?
30 years ago too to be honest.

It's like there's this thought that says some 'true collector' like which frequents this board is more entitled to a card they desire than anyone else who buys it.

Weird.

There were cards I bought 15 years ago that were a serious stretch to purchase then, but I could easily see there would come a time where that only became more difficult.
Wish someone had told the sellers back then to make it easier on me to fill holes in my collection.

Hi

I am not disagreeing with you and I am not saying we or anyone feel entitled. We do not. All I am saying is the spike in prices the last few months have just made it harder for collectors or investors to get what they have wanted.
This is always how it is just the spike the last bunch of months exceeds most trends in the past.

[dio]

In the meantime. Our collection has also spike as well. One can sell their card to get the ones that they want

[68Hawk]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

Hi

I am not disagreeing with you and I am not saying we or anyone feel entitled. We do not. All I am saying is the spike in prices the last few months have just made it harder for collectors or investors to get what they have wanted.
This is always how it is just the spike the last bunch of months exceeds most trends in the past.

Agree completely with you.

[68Hawk]

....but just to add, much of the price craziness is limited to the cherry on top cards. The rooks or special cards of the greatest players that have always been a premium. Not being able to afford them is not a disaster for collectors as there are literally hundreds of thousands of cards one could choose to have as a focus. For most players issues there can be found a card or three that are easily affordable if one is willing to take something outside of rookie.

Obviously there are some outlier players who are tremendously expensive or somewhat expensive to collect regardless, but those would number on less than two hands.

I just think there's an awful lot of moaning from some on here that they can't realistically buy a 52' Topps Mantle any longer no matter how hard they save.
It seems awfully precious, especially when couched with the idea that some version of a 'true collector' is being done out of their rightful due to have one.

[Jcosta19]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

Incredible $30,101 for an Authentic Altered.



This is good for many especially those who already have these cards



However, This is pricing many out of the key cards if they are striving for

It wasn't even a centered AA example which is interesting to me. Most of the huge price for grade cards are nice centering.

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[MattyC]

Memory Lane had some strong showings also last night, in terms of Mantle prices. The 1962 signed Mick hitting $20,000 and the 53 Bowman at 29k were noteworthy. The REA 52T is also going strong.

[Exhibitman]

What's impressive to me is how far down the condition well the price increases are going on many cards. Two, three, or more times in a year. Having lower grade marquee cards has been a tremendous investment.

I definitely feel for the collectors who are priced out of more and more cards. it isn't a matter of 'deserve', it is a matter of taking the fun out of it for more and more people. That can be a negative thing for a collectible: frustrated collectors may just say the hell with it and move on to something less pricey. There are a bunch of cards I am tempted to sell but won't because I know I won't pony up for replacements even if the market for them falls 50%.

[68Hawk]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

What's impressive to me is how far down the condition well the price increases are going on many cards. Two, three, or more times in a year. Having lower grade marquee cards has been a tremendous investment.

I definitely feel for the collectors who are priced out of more and more cards. it isn't a matter of 'deserve', it is a matter of taking the fun out of it for more and more people. That can be a negative thing for a collectible: frustrated collectors may just say the hell with it and move on to something less pricey. There are a bunch of cards I am tempted to sell but won't because I know I won't pony up for replacements even if the market for them falls 50%.

There were so many cards I couldn't afford from the jump I guess I was conditioned to it.
Glad I stuck with the hobby and collected the cards I COULD afford so that I have a collection I can enjoy today.

Interestingly, I think you are Exhibit A for the kind of collector I'm talking about.
I've been watching the cards you've offered up for viewing in threads for nearly 20 years. Often times boxing early on, but increasingly I've seen the esoteric and less obvious card issues of players from various sports. Strip, multi player, black and white, it's never mattered or limited you.
It's why I've loved watching your collection being revealed on here.

Quite obviously too I would think from your posts that price has played an important role in molding your collection.
But it didn't stop you, didn't make you embarrassed to reveal.

Plenty of collectors could learn alot from that kind of lesson, and still end up with important and rare cards that both reflect the players they want to collect and also become ever more collectable because of rarity.

Anyway, sorry for all who can't afford what they want to collect.
But I refuse to feel sorry for myself. I see collecting as a luxury plaything, extraneous to the important stuff in life.
I buy what I can afford, and if I lose it all we won't be out on the street.
Yes, I'd be crushed for a while, but I'd get over it.
If not being able to afford a 33' Goudey Ruth ruins the hobby for you, or any other card for that matter, you shouldn't be doing it in my opinion.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by 68Hawk

Interestingly, I think you are Exhibit A for the kind of collector I'm talking about.
I've been watching the cards you've offered up for viewing in threads for nearly 20 years. Often times boxing early on, but increasingly I've seen the esoteric and less obvious card issues of players from various sports. Strip, multi player, black and white, it's never mattered or limited you.
It's why I've loved watching your collection being revealed on here.

Quite obviously too I would think from your posts that price has played an important role in molding your collection.
But it didn't stop you, didn't make you embarrassed to reveal.

Thanks Daniel. My fortune/misfortune is that I am a self-centered sociopath with no regard for other peoples' feelings (per my wife), so I collect what is interesting to me and fun for me, regardless of whether it meets the 'Good Card Collecting Seal Of Approval' standard.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Memory Lane had some strong showings also last night, in terms of Mantle prices. The 1962 signed Mick hitting $20,000 and the 53 Bowman at 29k were noteworthy. The REA 52T is also going strong.

That was a good looking 53 Bowman though

[MattyC]

Yeah, it’s always the pretty ones that take all your money