BGS "Black Label" 50K Tiger rookie card up for auction altered according to Blowout

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

John, as I've said for years, the flip is now the commodity. Hard to comprehend for someone who was mentored by a generation of dealers and collectors for whom originality was sacred.

Totally Agree.

[todeen]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

John, as I've said for years, the flip is now the commodity. Hard to comprehend for someone who was mentored by a generation of dealers and collectors for whom originality was sacred.

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Totally Agree.

+1

Those are the prettiest perforations I've ever seen. No way was that folded out of a sheet of magazine cards.

[drcy]

I don't really understand how the perforations are part of the card's grade, beyond that they have to be full and all there. "Perfect, sharp edges" to the perforation nubs seem silly and irrelevant to me.

[perezfan]

Just further proof that this hobby has officially jumped the shark.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Just further proof that this hobby has officially jumped the shark.

The same people who had to google Mark Fidrych when I referenced him in a comment regarding the Tatis Jr. signing, will be running to google for jumping sharks...

[glynparson]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Just further proof that this hobby has officially jumped the shark.

Except the only people
Bitching are the same 4/5 people on Net54. Fonzi is still at Arnold’s as far as the hobby is concerned. Would have probably said a$$holes but I actually like Peter.

[frankbmd]

Call me crazy, but I’m going to start a grading company. The slab will contain the graded card, but you will not be able to see it, as it will be contained within an opaque black envelope. The flip will be clearly visible with all the usual identification of the card and the grade.

1. Once in the envelope and in the slab, no one will be able to quibble about the accuracy of the grade.

2. The Blowout Boys will not be able to assess alterations performed on the card.

3. PWCC will be able to offer a third layer anonymity to the nuances of the card by keeping it in their vault.

4. Scan doctors who enhance the appearance of the card for resale will no longer be needed, as all cards will be seen as a black rectangle.

5. Third party grading companies can generate flips faster than they can actually look at their back log of ungraded items, thus reducing the wait times for submissions to be graded.

6. Auction houses can continue to embellish their description of lots for sale. They will also be able to save on the printing of catalogs or eliminate them, requiring bidders to simply view their embellished descriptions online.

7. I think that I can price this service competitively to compete with existing TPGs.

What’s not to love.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by glynparson

Except the only people
Bitching are the same 4/5 people on Net54. Fonzi is still at Arnold’s as far as the hobby is concerned. Would have probably said a$$holes but I actually like Peter.

Glyn do you read your posts?

If you look back for years you make 3 types of posts the majority of times.
1) sticking up for altered cards
2) sticking up for slimy sellers
3) calling people names that dislike the con artists in the hobby.

You seem like an outstanding individual and I am sure many have a name for you also.

[Peter_Spaeth]

59K pre vig, 12 days to go. Surely we can break 100K for this flip.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Glyn do you read your posts?

If you look back for years you make 3 types of posts the majority of times.
1) sticking up for altered cards
2) sticking up for slimy sellers
3) calling people names that dislike the con artists in the hobby.

You seem like an outstanding individual and I am sure many have a name for you also.

Very true...

But some of us choose not to “name call” or be rude to individuals belonging to a public forum in which opinions of both sides are welcomed. I understand he probably makes a good chunk of money flipping, re-submitting and selling slabs. But that doesn’t mean that such obvious fraud and corruption shouldn’t be called out.

Flip away, continue to defend these butchered cards and pop joyously!

[wazoo]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Glyn do you read your posts?

If you look back for years you make 3 types of posts the majority of times.
1) sticking up for altered cards
2) sticking up for slimy sellers
3) calling people names that dislike the con artists in the hobby.

You seem like an outstanding individual and I am sure many have a name for you also.

+1. I’m glad someone said it

[cammb]

Originally Posted by drcy

I don't really understand how the perforations are part of the card's grade, beyond that they have to be full and all there. "Perfect, sharp edges" to the perforation nubs seem silly and irrelevant to me.

They are part of the card's grade because they ARE part of the card. bIf you are going to grade a perorated card then perorated edges have to taken into account. Look at the left side of that card and tell me you are alright with those perfs.

[Tomi]

Originally Posted by cammb

They are part of the card's grade because they ARE part of the card. bIf you are going to grade a perorated card then perorated edges have to taken into account. Look at the left side of that card and tell me you are alright with those perfs.

Forget the perfs, look at the sides tapering inwards on the bottom left and right. Card is a mess.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Tomi

Forget the perfs, look at the sides tapering inwards on the bottom left and right. Card is a mess.

The doctor couldn't even run the reperforating tool straight.

Still time for Brian to do the right thing (IMO).

[CobbSpikedMe]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Still time for Brian to do the right thing (IMO).

At least put a disclaimer in the description and notify all current bidders of the proof of alteration. I don't see MH taking the lot down though.