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Old 03-15-2021, 08:55 AM
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Just curious - are you thinking there are (2) shill bidders in the subject auction link? I would figure that people all have a "price point" and can find a lower priced comparable card with a quick search.

I bid on a few items with the subject item seller and have been fortunate that the items I've bid on didn't appear to be shilled. Keep in mind, I usually don't bid on post 1950 higher grade cards.
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Old 03-15-2021, 09:04 AM
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Most people haven't done this, but I've accidentally bid more for a card in the heat of auction (and won unfortunately) than the BIN price for a comparable item that was already sitting on eBay. A few times probably. And substantially more on one occasion last year.
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Old 03-15-2021, 10:13 AM
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Just curious - are you thinking there are (2) shill bidders in the subject auction link? I would figure that people all have a "price point" and can find a lower priced comparable card with a quick search.

I bid on a few items with the subject item seller and have been fortunate that the items I've bid on didn't appear to be shilled. Keep in mind, I usually don't bid on post 1950 higher grade cards.
Not sure if there are 2 shill bidders, but 2 bidders on that item do conspicuously seem to love one seller in particular. Also adding to the shenanigans is a bid retraction at $130, which occurred before the unrealistic run up.


I've also gotten caught up in the heat of bidding and ended up bidding slightly higher than a BIN option, but this case is 250% higher than the BIN options, and also the heat-of-the-moment overbids I would argue happen in the few minutes/seconds before hammer time, not a day before close.
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It could be the tandem bidding scam where the under bidder cancels when the auction is about to end leaving the high bid just above $30.
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Old 03-15-2021, 10:43 AM
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I'd note that the high bidder has 0% feedback and 84% of his bids with this seller.
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I'd note that the high bidder has 0% feedback and 84% of his bids with this seller.
I'm a little confused by this. The high bidder has a feedback number of 5565 but it does say "Feedback: 0% Positive". What does that mean?
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I'm a little confused by this. The high bidder has a feedback number of 5565 but it does say "Feedback: 0% Positive". What does that mean?

I believe that feedback is calculated in 12 month intervals. All of this "bidders" activity must be recent, therefore no feedback has been left in that time frame.

Just a guess.

Quick search shows that bidder is also in on other 1968's. He is either the consignor, or he's very passionate about 1968's.

Or..

Also, look for last minute cancellations to see if it's the crater the auction theory listed above by another poster......which I have my own suspicions about.
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