Grading Technical vs. Overall Appeal

[3-2-count]

Agree that the Psa baggie is horrid on Leon's Red Cobby, but disagree that it should be cracked out due to the 1.5 grade affecting the cards presentation.

In my opinion it makes the card just that much more special being that its unique. Leave it as is Leon, I love it. Great card......

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by 3-2-count

Agree that the Psa baggie is horrid on Leon's Red Cobby, but disagree that it should be cracked out due to the 1.5 grade affecting the cards presentation.

In my opinion it makes the card just that much more special being that its unique. Leave it as is Leon, I love it. Great card......

It's cards like this that make me wonder why people pay so much to get someone else's opinion about the condition of a card. Any explanation you can give as to why this is a 1.5?

[CobbSpikedMe]

Originally Posted by jayshum

It's cards like this that make me wonder why people pay so much to get someone else's opinion about the condition of a card. Any explanation you can give as to why this is a 1.5?

Yeah, that one's a head scratcher for sure.

[68Hawk]

Looks to me like there is a half moon chip out of the paper at 3 oclock.

If so, got no problem with the grade.
People can still choose to pay '3' grade money for that card if they want a stunner and not a flip.
Card will re-sell again down the line to someone else who similarly values the eye candy at above 'standard' for the grade.

[3-2-count]

Sure guys. The background story on the 1948 Leaf Jackie Robinson rookie card which I purchased here on N54 from another well respected board member is that it originates from the collection of an elderly Iowa farmer who with the help of a couple wonderful collectors assisted him on having his childhood 1948 Leaf cards graded which were new to the hobby end of last year.

Other than some light corner wear and a faint factory print mark seen across Jackie's hat which is very common for this card, it has some areas on the front where it looks like something long ago touched its surface that I would say now resembles a dry sappy type of material. Who knows maybe at one time another card from the farmers collection was stacked on top of Jackie which may have had something on it. It will remain a mystery

Hard to pick it up as you can see from the scan and you have to either tilt the card in the right light or view it under a loupe to really catch it. Either way its a spectacular example which I'm damn proud to own.

I'm looking at the card as we speak and I'm not seeing any half moon paper loss at 3oclock that Daniel states. Must just be the scan.

[68Hawk]

Originally Posted by 3-2-count

Sure guys. The background story on the 1948 Leaf Jackie Robinson rookie card which I purchased here on N54 from another well respected board member is that it originates from the collection of an elderly Iowa farmer who with the help of a couple wonderful collectors assisted him on having his childhood 1948 Leaf cards graded which were new to the hobby end of last year.

Other than some light corner wear and a faint factory print mark seen across Jackie's hat which is very common for this card, it has some areas on the front where it looks like something long ago touched its surface that I would say now resembles a dry sappy type of material. Who knows maybe at one time another card from the farmers collection was stacked on top of Jackie which may have had something on it. It will remain a mystery

Hard to pick it up as you can see from the scan and you have to either tilt the card in the right light or view it under a loupe to really catch it. Either way its a spectacular example which I'm damn proud to own.

I'm looking at the card as we speak and I'm not seeing any half moon paper loss at 3oclock that Daniel states. Must just be the scan.

Ripper card Tony!
You will enjoy that baby for as long as you keep her, it's everything you want in an honest 1948 issued Leaf. Just beautiful.

[3-2-count]

Thank you Daniel.

Much appreciated.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by 68Hawk

Ripper card Tony!
You will enjoy that baby for as long as you keep her, it's everything you want in an honest 1948 issued Leaf. Just beautiful.

Agreed! I would so much rather own a full-bordered example like that (with great provenance, that you KNOW is all-original) than a high-number graded example with sharp edges and snow white borders. I would never trust any highly graded 48 Leaf (baseball or football) these days.

Beauty!

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by 3-2-count

Sure guys. The background story on the 1948 Leaf Jackie Robinson rookie card which I purchased here on N54 from another well respected board member is that it originates from the collection of an elderly Iowa farmer who with the help of a couple wonderful collectors assisted him on having his childhood 1948 Leaf cards graded which were new to the hobby end of last year.

Other than some light corner wear and a faint factory print mark seen across Jackie's hat which is very common for this card, it has some areas on the front where it looks like something long ago touched its surface that I would say now resembles a dry sappy type of material. Who knows maybe at one time another card from the farmers collection was stacked on top of Jackie which may have had something on it. It will remain a mystery

Hard to pick it up as you can see from the scan and you have to either tilt the card in the right light or view it under a loupe to really catch it. Either way its a spectacular example which I'm damn proud to own.

I'm looking at the card as we speak and I'm not seeing any half moon paper loss at 3oclock that Daniel states. Must just be the scan.

Great story about a beautiful looking card.

[3-2-count]

Mark & Jay - thank you guys......

[rats60]

There is a lot of complaining about grading in this thread, but the problem is that "eye appeal" is subjective. Some people want a perfectly centered card and don't care if it had rounded corners. To me that is not eye appeal. I want a card with sharp corners and am willing to accept a little off center to get it. I want a card to be in the condition it left the factory, not one that has been abused.

A card was recently sold that several on here praised as having great eye appeal even for a low grade. It had at least 3 places on the front of the card with pieces missing. Again that is not eye appeal to me. That is something that would drive me crazy.

A TPG's job is to give their independent opinion of what the grade of a card is. It is up to the buyer to decide if they agree or not and if not pass on the card. I have noticed that they are giving more weight to centering as the collectors have put more weight on it. Sometimes cards with eye appeal can sell for a premium, but often they don't. Look no further than the 2 Jordan RC that sold for 738k. One was clearly off centered but it sold for the same price as the centered one.