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Old 03-12-2021, 07:42 PM
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I had something similar happen to me on ebay last year. I won an auction and started to pay, when suddenly the auction was canceled. I don't remember exactly what the message from ebay said, but effectively the item was no longer available. I guess it didn't go for a enough money and he didn't want to sell it that cheap. I didn't get offered any "consolation prize". I just had to move on.
Some sellers list their inventory on ebay, their own website, and in their store if they have one. Several times I have negotiated and bought stuff, which the seller then had to pull off ebay. In fact I bought 13 T202 cards from a member here last weekend in this way.

A couple of times, after I'd agreed to the deal, I got pretty nervous when the seller was slow to remove the item from ebay; the standout examples were all involving the same well known GU dealer: a Johnny Bench rookie bat, a super rare 1965 Twins Al Worthington World Series bat, and a 1964 Vic Power Twins flannel.

I have a good relationship with this dealer so I'm sure he would've kept his word to me, but I worried what it would do to his reputation if someone came along and hit the BIN while it was still hanging out there.
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Old 03-12-2021, 07:57 PM
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I agree with much posted above.

Shipping charges annoy me when it is $4 or $5 and I see they spent under a dollar for postage.

I like cardboard inside the envelope and rubber bands. I hate magic tape on card holders.

But ya'll have hit a sore point on feedback. As a buyer, once I've promptly paid I expect the item, AND I expect feedback. And I deserve it at that point. I've paid, nothing left for me to do in the transaction. The seller still needs to accept payment, package well, and promptly ship. They don't get feedback yet. I consider sellers who want feedback first to be holding feedback hostage... Seems to me that sellers should submit feedback once I've paid.
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Old 03-12-2021, 08:29 PM
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I agree with much posted above.

Shipping charges annoy me when it is $4 or $5 and I see they spent under a dollar for postage.

I like cardboard inside the envelope and rubber bands. I hate magic tape on card holders.

But ya'll have hit a sore point on feedback. As a buyer, once I've promptly paid I expect the item, AND I expect feedback. And I deserve it at that point. I've paid, nothing left for me to do in the transaction. The seller still needs to accept payment, package well, and promptly ship. They don't get feedback yet. I consider sellers who want feedback first to be holding feedback hostage... Seems to me that sellers should submit feedback once I've paid.
Theres really no point of a seller holding feedback hostage, since they can only leave positive. That was the reason why Ebay changed the feedback system.
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Old 03-12-2021, 10:11 PM
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Theres really no point of a seller holding feedback hostage, since they can only leave positive. That was the reason why Ebay changed the feedback system.
When they changed that it made feedback pointless. It became mostly a pat on the back for doing what you're supposed to do in the first place. Like having Target break out the confetti and balloons for everyone who put their card in the slot... I stopped doing feedbacks shortly after that, with a handful of exceptions.

If a buyer was new and paid quickly I would usually give feedback. (My expectation for "quickly" was very lax, something like 2-3 days. )

If the sale was unexpectedly pleasant, like the couple people who asked sensible questions and ended up having a brief hobby discussion. Not necessary for either of us, but fun.

Usually if someone asked politely. I would do it, but wasn't in a hurry. I'd let them know that I did it when people asked and that I'd get to it soon, today, maybe tomorrow.

Once I was in the feedback leaving pages, I'd usually do a bunch of them, most of the ones on the page. So maybe 1/3 of what was waiting.

Back when the system was meaningful, I did it regularly.
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But ya'll have hit a sore point on feedback. As a buyer, once I've promptly paid I expect the item, AND I expect feedback. And I deserve it at that point. I've paid, nothing left for me to do in the transaction. The seller still needs to accept payment, package well, and promptly ship. They don't get feedback yet. I consider sellers who want feedback first to be holding feedback hostage... Seems to me that sellers should submit feedback once I've paid.
Sorry...You don't get or deserve feedback until the TRANSACTION is a success. Not just because you paid. You could pay then say the item never arrived, say it was damaged or run any number of other scams after paying. Using your logic, every scammer would have immaculate feedback.
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