Worst type of eBay "guy"

[steve B]

Do people still cancel bids so they can sell to an off Ebay offer?
I hate that.

That and the ones that won't honor a winning bid, claiming they sold the card over the weekend but didn't get around to cancelling the auction until after it closed. Then offer as a "consolation prize" like 20% off their autographs that are probably fake and way over priced. (Yeah, I'm still POd I didn't get that Lundgren and the two caramels that were with it. )

Or the ones that sell trimmed stuff and won't respond to emails until it gets posted here. The come crying about how they were "busy" or on vacation and couldn't answer emails, but never put their store on vacation hold. Like it's not a hard thing to have an "out of office" automated response. Sorry, no matter how much other people say you're awesome, I'm still not changing that negative.

[GasHouseGang]

Originally Posted by steve B

That and the ones that won't honor a winning bid, claiming they sold the card over the weekend but didn't get around to cancelling the auction until after it closed. Then offer as a "consolation prize" like 20% off their autographs that are probably fake and way over priced. (Yeah, I'm still POd I didn't get that Lundgren and the two caramels that were with it. )

Steve,
I had something similar happen to me on ebay last year. I won an auction and started to pay, when suddenly the auction was canceled. I don't remember exactly what the message from ebay said, but effectively the item was no longer available. I guess it didn't go for a enough money and he didn't want to sell it that cheap. I didn't get offered any "consolation prize". I just had to move on.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by GasHouseGang

Steve,
I had something similar happen to me on ebay last year. I won an auction and started to pay, when suddenly the auction was canceled. I don't remember exactly what the message from ebay said, but effectively the item was no longer available. I guess it didn't go for a enough money and he didn't want to sell it that cheap. I didn't get offered any "consolation prize". I just had to move on.

Some sellers list their inventory on ebay, their own website, and in their store if they have one. Several times I have negotiated and bought stuff, which the seller then had to pull off ebay. In fact I bought 13 T202 cards from a member here last weekend in this way.

A couple of times, after I'd agreed to the deal, I got pretty nervous when the seller was slow to remove the item from ebay; the standout examples were all involving the same well known GU dealer: a Johnny Bench rookie bat, a super rare 1965 Twins Al Worthington World Series bat, and a 1964 Vic Power Twins flannel.

I have a good relationship with this dealer so I'm sure he would've kept his word to me, but I worried what it would do to his reputation if someone came along and hit the BIN while it was still hanging out there.

[FrankWakefield]

I agree with much posted above.

Shipping charges annoy me when it is $4 or $5 and I see they spent under a dollar for postage.

I like cardboard inside the envelope and rubber bands. I hate magic tape on card holders.

But ya'll have hit a sore point on feedback. As a buyer, once I've promptly paid I expect the item, AND I expect feedback. And I deserve it at that point. I've paid, nothing left for me to do in the transaction. The seller still needs to accept payment, package well, and promptly ship. They don't get feedback yet. I consider sellers who want feedback first to be holding feedback hostage... Seems to me that sellers should submit feedback once I've paid.

[Jim65]

Originally Posted by FrankWakefield

I agree with much posted above.

Shipping charges annoy me when it is $4 or $5 and I see they spent under a dollar for postage.

I like cardboard inside the envelope and rubber bands. I hate magic tape on card holders.

But ya'll have hit a sore point on feedback. As a buyer, once I've promptly paid I expect the item, AND I expect feedback. And I deserve it at that point. I've paid, nothing left for me to do in the transaction. The seller still needs to accept payment, package well, and promptly ship. They don't get feedback yet. I consider sellers who want feedback first to be holding feedback hostage... Seems to me that sellers should submit feedback once I've paid.

Theres really no point of a seller holding feedback hostage, since they can only leave positive. That was the reason why Ebay changed the feedback system.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by Jim65

Theres really no point of a seller holding feedback hostage, since they can only leave positive. That was the reason why Ebay changed the feedback system.

When they changed that it made feedback pointless. It became mostly a pat on the back for doing what you're supposed to do in the first place. Like having Target break out the confetti and balloons for everyone who put their card in the slot... I stopped doing feedbacks shortly after that, with a handful of exceptions.

If a buyer was new and paid quickly I would usually give feedback. (My expectation for "quickly" was very lax, something like 2-3 days. )

If the sale was unexpectedly pleasant, like the couple people who asked sensible questions and ended up having a brief hobby discussion. Not necessary for either of us, but fun.

Usually if someone asked politely. I would do it, but wasn't in a hurry. I'd let them know that I did it when people asked and that I'd get to it soon, today, maybe tomorrow.

Once I was in the feedback leaving pages, I'd usually do a bunch of them, most of the ones on the page. So maybe 1/3 of what was waiting.

Back when the system was meaningful, I did it regularly.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by FrankWakefield

But ya'll have hit a sore point on feedback. As a buyer, once I've promptly paid I expect the item, AND I expect feedback. And I deserve it at that point. I've paid, nothing left for me to do in the transaction. The seller still needs to accept payment, package well, and promptly ship. They don't get feedback yet. I consider sellers who want feedback first to be holding feedback hostage... Seems to me that sellers should submit feedback once I've paid.

Sorry...You don't get or deserve feedback until the TRANSACTION is a success. Not just because you paid. You could pay then say the item never arrived, say it was damaged or run any number of other scams after paying. Using your logic, every scammer would have immaculate feedback.

[jiw98]

When a seller has a price or best offer and you make a reasonable offer only to have the seller counter with the full price. If you wont except less than the asking price don't put "make a offer" in the sale.

[T205 GB]

Originally Posted by jiw98

When a seller has a price or best offer and you make a reasonable offer only to have the seller counter with the full price. If you wont except less than the asking price don't put "make a offer" in the sale.

Reasonable for the buyer is not always reasonable for the seller.

[ASF123]

I hate magic tape on card holders.

Oh, man. So very much this!

Sellers: Why do you keep ruining perfectly good top loaders?? I collect raw cards. I store them in top loaders. They're not cheap - I know you know that. You shipped the card in a top loader, so presumably you buy them too.

So why oh why do you cover it in packing tape that's so hard to pull off, I feel like I'm risking creasing the card, and it leaves so much residue that the top loader is useless for storage??

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by ASF123

Oh, man. So very much this!

Sellers: Why do you keep ruining perfectly good top loaders?? I collect raw cards. I store them in top loaders. They're not cheap - I know you know that. You shipped the card in a top loader, so presumably you buy them too.

So why oh why do you cover it in packing tape that's so hard to pull off, I feel like I'm risking creasing the card, and it leaves so much residue that the top loader is useless for storage??

As a sometimes seller. I am selling a card(s) not a toploader. The toploader and tape are to protect the card(s) I sold. A lot of times i use old crappy scratched up toploaderss to ship.

[Jim65]

Sellers job is to protect against damage, not to provide you with a brand new top loader for free.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by ASF123

Oh, man. So very much this!

Sellers: Why do you keep ruining perfectly good top loaders?? I collect raw cards. I store them in top loaders. They're not cheap - I know you know that. You shipped the card in a top loader, so presumably you buy them too.

So why oh why do you cover it in packing tape that's so hard to pull off, I feel like I'm risking creasing the card, and it leaves so much residue that the top loader is useless for storage??

You're buying the card. I've yet to see a listing that says "and you get an immaculate top loader too!!!"

[ASF123]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

You're buying the card. I've yet to see a listing that says "and you get an immaculate top loader too!!!"

Again - not what I was talking about. See my subsequent post.

[sportsnut25]

Originally Posted by jiw98

When a seller has a price or best offer and you make a reasonable offer only to have the seller counter with the full price. If you wont except less than the asking price don't put "make a offer" in the sale.

Never had a seller come back with full price but have had a couple sellers knock a quarter or two off which is an eye roller.

I will admit I accepted both times this happened as they were items I would have paid full price for if OBO wasn't an option, so ultimately we both won.

The sellers who cancel your bid and close the auction when it’s not going to sell for what they want. Just list it with a reserve. I’ve had six auction bids cancelled in the last two weeks.

Originally Posted by jiw98

When a seller has a price or best offer and you make a reasonable offer only to have the seller counter with the full price. If you wont except less than the asking price don't put "make a offer" in the sale.

So this.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by jiw98

When a seller has a price or best offer and you make a reasonable offer only to have the seller counter with the full price. If you wont except less than the asking price don't put "make a offer" in the sale.

There is an eBay feature in place for some sellers. The platform will convert BIN listings, after a few weeks, to BIN or Best Offer. Then, eBay will email the seller to let them know Best Offers have been enabled...after the fact.

According to eBay, they do this because "allowing offers (of 50% off the BIN price) will increase sales."

So, in some cases, the seller didn't "put 'make a offer' in the sale." Sometimes, they just started getting offers when they never set up the listing that way.

It would be nice if eBay at least asked first.

[icollectDCsports]

When more of my collecting focus was on pinback buttons and cloth patches, eBay sellers would frequently have multiples of a particular item and post a photo of one of them as an example. On several occasions, the item I was sent was in materially worse shape than the depicted example. I would have to send the items back, and sometimes the sellers would express surprise and frustration because "it's pretty much the same thing." Oh well.

[thecatspajamas]

Brings to mind a pet peeve of mine is sellers who will post an image with multiple items in it, and in their description state something like "auction is only for the item in the title." As a longtime seller who continues to be amazed how many buyers browse and purchase solely based on the main image, without regard to details clearly stated in the description or even the title, I cannot possibly see how the amount of time it saves to not create individual photos for each listing outweighs the headache that must come from dealing with buyers who assume they are bidding on everything in the photo.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by thecatspajamas

Brings to mind a pet peeve of mine is sellers who will post an image with multiple items in it, and in their description state something like "auction is only for the item in the title." As a longtime seller who continues to be amazed how many buyers browse and purchase solely based on the main image, without regard to details clearly stated in the description or even the title, I cannot possibly see how the amount of time it saves to not create individual photos for each listing outweighs the headache that must come from dealing with buyers who assume they are bidding on everything in the photo.

I usually scan the fronts separately but scan the backs 4 at a time. Not worthwhile to make separate scans on cheap cards.

As for tape, some sellers need to learn that 'blue tape' is not the same as tape that happens to be blue.

Speaking of top loaders, if you ship in them SEAL THE F****NG TOP! I bought a $70 card last week that came in a ton of packing but the seller did not secure the top of the top loader. The card was out half an inch and there was a big ding on one corner. Back it went...

[chadeast]

Originally Posted by Eric72

There is an eBay feature in place for some sellers. The platform will convert BIN listings, after a few weeks, to BIN or Best Offer. Then, eBay will email the seller to let them know Best Offers have been enabled...after the fact.

According to eBay, they do this because "allowing offers (of 50% off the BIN price) will increase sales."

So, in some cases, the seller didn't "put 'make a offer' in the sale." Sometimes, they just started getting offers when they never set up the listing that way.

It would be nice if eBay at least asked first.

Wow, that's really shady. It seems there's always a new level of suckage to discover with ebay.