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Old 03-08-2021, 09:01 AM
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IMO...anything that PSA has done in the past should be thrown out the window.

They're under new ownership...who seem to have aspirations of blowing up the hobby like never seen before.

They need to make this...and other obvious errors right...and move on.

IMO...this is what will happen.
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Old 03-08-2021, 09:18 AM
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IMO...anything that PSA has done in the past should be thrown out the window.

They're under new ownership...who seem to have aspirations of blowing up the hobby like never seen before.

They need to make this...and other obvious errors right...and move on.

IMO...this is what will happen.
There are countless altered cards in slabs. People have been doctoring cards and getting them into holders for close to 30 years. Many of the doctors are prolific in terms of the quantities they churn out, and in modern it's absolutely rampant. How the hell is new ownership ever going to fix that?
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Old 03-08-2021, 10:13 AM
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One card at a time. In an open and honest way.

Crossing fingers
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Old 03-08-2021, 10:42 AM
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One card at a time. In an open and honest way.

Crossing fingers
What happens with your one Jackie card really has not much to do with the unbelievable scope of an unfixable problem.
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What happens with your one Jackie card really has not much to do with the unbelievable scope of an unfixable problem.
Ya mean you do not want to share in his excitement over his trying to hit the Leaf Lottery? Just look how excited the man is.
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Old 03-08-2021, 10:54 AM
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Ya mean you do not want to share in his excitement over his trying to hit the Leaf Lottery? Just look how excited the man is.
If he hits it, and I have my doubts, good for him I guess, but let's not pretend this is somehow some turning point for the hobby if he does.
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If he hits it, and I have my doubts, good for him I guess, but let's not pretend this is somehow some turning point for the hobby if he does.
True that... They would need to re-review tens of thousands of other cards (now socked away in countless collections), confiscate them all, re-slab them as "A", and monetarily compensate the thousands of other owners (beyond this Jackie abomination)... just to start making a dent.
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Ya mean you do not want to share in his excitement over his trying to hit the Leaf Lottery? Just look how excited the man is.

Yes Jackie Leaf has surged since I bought the card last summer, but so have lots of other cards. I've got to potentially get this re-holdered in an A holder and fight over not getting screwed on the fair market price.

The leaf lottery? No thanks, don't want that "good luck".
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I am very interested to see how this shakes out. AJ, thank you for posting about this and please keep us updated. Posting this on a public forum (one PSA does not control), could have some impact on PSA's response, especially in light of new ownership.

I agree with Pete that there is new ownership and we should see how they handle this before we all go crazy. While I am very doubtful, the new owners deserve a shot. I also agree with Peter that there is no way PSA could ever fully honor its guaranty in light of all the altered cards in PSA slabs; especially considering that the value of those cards are 2-10x what they were 6 months ago.

Anyway, lets see how it shakes out.

AJ, there are some who have been looking for a higher profile test case to litigate PSA's guaranty. This seems like a decent example. If you choose to get a lawyer and litigate, I am sure there are a number of people who would contribute something to the cost. Just sayin.....
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