The Next "Big Cards"

[rsdill2]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

Said to have had the highest velocity in the Mexican League of all time. Tigers and Astros fan favorite known as "Senor Smoke", played major relief role in the Tigers 84 run, and the Astros 86 run. 1977 Mexican League MVP. Member of Mexican Baseball Hall of Fame. 62-36 MLB record with 93 saves and a 3.56 era. I believe his 1979 Topps card #444 is his rookie card, at least as far as I know. His Amercian Hofer counterpart, Ozzie Smith's 1979 Topps rookie PSA 10 just sold for 1/4 million USD with all the juice and vig.

Did you know there have been 3 players in MLB history with the first name Aurelio?

Aurelio Monteagudo, played '63-'73, died at the age of 46 in a car accident.
Aurelio Rodiriguez, played '67-'83, died at the age of 52 in a car accident.
Aurelio Lopez, played '74-'87, died at the age of 44 in a car accident.

[rats60]

It looks like the real Jackie Robinson rookie, 1949 Leaf, is the next hot card. A PSA 7 sold for 79k end of December. Just over 2 months later one at Goldin is sitting at 362k, more than 4.5 times the previous high for the grade.

[Neal]

Originally Posted by rats60

It looks like the real Jackie Robinson rookie, 1949 Leaf, is the next hot card. A PSA 7 sold for 79k end of December. Just over 2 months later one at Goldin is sitting at 362k, more than 4.5 times the previous high for the grade.

I would think the Bond Bread cards would be the "rookie", no? I think all but the portrait came out in 47, with the portrait having a 2-3 year run

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Neal

I would think the Bond Bread cards would be the "rookie", no? I think all but the portrait came out in 47, with the portrait having a 2-3 year run

No, the hobby has always treated only national issues as rookie cards, not regionals. The Bell Brand isn't considered a rookie for Maury Wills. The highest a Bond Bread has sold for is 32k last December.

[packs]

Originally Posted by rats60

No, the hobby has always treated only national issues as rookie cards, not regionals. The Bell Brand isn't considered a rookie for Maury Wills. The highest a Bond Bread has sold for is 32k last December.

Even if it the set doesn't meet the same definition as Leaf, the significance of the Portrait card should outweigh anything else. It is without a doubt the very first card of Jackie and the very first appearance of an African American in an MLB uniform on a card.

This Goldin write up has a nice summary on its distribution history:

https://goldinauctions.com/LotDetail...entoryid=27398

[DeanH3]

Originally Posted by packs

Even if it the set doesn't meet the same definition as Leaf, the significance of the Portrait card should outweigh anything else. It is without a doubt the very first card of Jackie and the very first appearance of an African American in an MLB uniform on a card.

This Goldin write up has a nice summary on its distribution history:

https://goldinauctions.com/LotDetail...entoryid=27398

That is a nice write up. According to the article, these should not be looked at as a regional issue as they were distributed throughout the country. I do think that perspective is gaining steam. As the "regional issue" myth diminishes these should compete or even surpass the Leaf at some point. The Bond Bread is just too important of an issue on so many levels not to be seen as more important than the Leaf. But that's just my opinion.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by DeanH3

That is a nice write up. According to the article, these should not be looked at as a regional issue as they were distributed throughout the country. I do think that perspective is gaining steam. As the "regional issue" myth diminishes these should compete or even surpass the Leaf at some point. The Bond Bread is just too important of an issue on so many levels not to be seen as more important than the Leaf. But that's just my opinion.

Black neighborhoods in a few cities is not a national issue. AHs write up whatever they want to sell a card. The Goldin Leaf 7 ended up at 392k. I don't ever see a regional competing with the Leaf RC.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by rsdill2

Did you know there have been 3 players in MLB history with the first name Aurelio?

Aurelio Monteagudo, played '63-'73, died at the age of 46 in a car accident.
Aurelio Rodiriguez, played '67-'83, died at the age of 52 in a car accident.
Aurelio Lopez, played '74-'87, died at the age of 44 in a car accident.

I'm not gonna drive with anyone named "Aurelio".

[con40]

Keep an eye on players who played in the Negro Leagues. Once MLB adds their stats to the official record, their stats will be impressive, and collectors will take notice.

Of course ol' Satch, but Monte Irvin, Larry Doby, Roy Campanella, and Don Newcombe could all see some serious price increases.