Likely HOFer without a rookie card

BearBailey · #1 02-28-2021, 09:25 PM

I wouldn�t worry about Beltran getting in the hall of fame until Trammel, Grich and Rolen do, once those 3 are in Beltran might have a chance based on WAR, as far as outfielders And the eye test I would think dale Murphy, Joe Carter and Dwight Evans would get in long before Beltran.

bigfanNY · #2 02-28-2021, 10:14 PM

Beltran was a stud in the postseason I think that is the push he needs to get in. Not a first year but I do believe he gets the votes he needs over time.
J

HRBAKER · #3 02-28-2021, 10:37 PM

I think the SP Prospects card is by far the best option of the three 1995 shown in the thread. If I had to pick btw the two Topps cards, I'd go with the right picture every time. IAE, if the Topps card was correct I might like the SP better anyway.

bcbgcbrcb · #4 03-01-2021, 01:46 AM

I would like to note that there already is at least one player in the HOF whose only rookie card pictures another player, 1930’s catcher, Rick Ferrell from the 1931-32 Exhibits 4-on-1 set.

The-Cardfather · #5 03-01-2021, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by bigfanNY

Beltran was a stud in the postseason.........
J

Most Mets fans would disagree with that.

ALR-bishop · #6 03-01-2021, 10:33 AM

I would personally go with Juan, but I like off beat cards anyway and collect sets. If I collected rookie cards I think I would have all 3 of the 95s and maybe John's 98 Leaf all together in my binder and let someone else worry about which was the "real one"

bobsbbcards · #7 03-01-2021, 10:47 AM

Aurelio Rodriguez might get voted into the hall by the veterans committee. That would be funny.

packs · #8 03-01-2021, 11:12 AM

I'd go with the Juan card too. Rather have the right photo than the right name.

Peter_Spaeth · #9 03-01-2021, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by packs

I'd go with the Juan card too. Rather have the right photo than the right name.

Agree, but the hobby says otherwise.

Peter_Spaeth · #10 03-01-2021, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BearBailey

I wouldn�t worry about Beltran getting in the hall of fame until Trammel, Grich and Rolen do, once those 3 are in Beltran might have a chance based on WAR, as far as outfielders And the eye test I would think dale Murphy, Joe Carter and Dwight Evans would get in long before Beltran.

Trammell was elected to the HOF in 2018.

Mike D. · #11 03-01-2021, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BearBailey

I wouldn�t worry about Beltran getting in the hall of fame until Trammel, Grich and Rolen do, once those 3 are in Beltran might have a chance based on WAR, as far as outfielders And the eye test I would think dale Murphy, Joe Carter and Dwight Evans would get in long before Beltran.

I can't disagree on Evans (67.1 WAR), but Beltran's career WAR (70.1) is higher than Murphy and Carter COMBINED (46.5 + 19.6 = 66.1).

Interestingly enough, if you look up Carter's "Most similar batter" on Baseball Reference, the #1 match is Murphy (Carter is #2 on Murphy's list).

Mike D. · #12 03-01-2021, 09:12 PM

For context, all the center fielders with a higher career WAR than Beltran who are not in the Hall of Fame:

Mike Trout 74.6

That is all.

Next on the list is Kenny Lofton at 68.4, who I also think is more than qualified and I believe the highest WAR for anyone ever to go "one and done" on the ballot.

Behind them on the list in order are 5 Hall of Famers - Snider, Dawson, Ashburn, Hamilton.

Peter_Spaeth · #13 03-01-2021, 10:30 PM

http://www.hallofstats.com/player/beltrca01

Mike D. · #14 03-02-2021, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

http://www.hallofstats.com/player/beltrca01

Love me some Hall of Stats (I�m biased, as my brother runs the site, but still).

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