1968 topps series 6

[BillP]

Didn't know about this sp 6th series.....

[Kevvyg1026]

The sixth series has short prints because there are 77 cards in the printing. I don't know which cards they are yet. That is why I am trying to locate miscuts, etc. So I can determine the print pattern of the two slits. The mantle combo card is an example of a miscut.

[jmoran19]

Pretty sure I have a photo of one 132 card side, will find and post

[jmoran19]

As promised, one half of the 264 card uncut sheet for 1968 6th series, rows 6 and 7 appear to be SP's but really unknown till the other half sheet is found as 77 card series usually have 33 cards printed 4 times and 44 cards printed 3 times

John

[stlcardsfan]

I can confirm Lee May (heading row 6) was a tough card to find when I was putting the set together. None of the others in those rows really stand out though.

[Kevvyg1026]

Because of that sheet configuration, it may be that the pattern was five rows 4x each, and two rows 2x ea. So short prints are probably in lee may and Bryan rows

[jmoran19]

Originally Posted by Kevvyg1026

Because of that sheet configuration, it may be that the pattern was five rows 4x each, and two rows 2x ea. So short prints are probably in lee may and Bryan rows

Not saying its impossible but I've been collecting photos of uncut topps sheets for 25 years and never have run across this pattern for a full 264 card sheet. Have multiple examples where the layout between the two 1/2 sheets for a series are very different.

[Rich Klein]

Originally Posted by stlcardsfan

I can confirm Lee May (heading row 6) was a tough card to find when I was putting the set together. None of the others in those rows really stand out though.

Lee May has been tougher for 40 years and I saw Tommie Agee in the same row. I think this will end up being similar to the 67 Final series in which the second sheet will end up creating something akin to a 5-4-3 total of the sheets.

Rich

[Rich Klein]

Originally Posted by stlcardsfan

I can confirm Lee May (heading row 6) was a tough card to find when I was putting the set together. None of the others in those rows really stand out though.

I also always sold/still sell the Tommie Agee card whenever I get one.

I will also wager there is a second sheet because are the 68 Tigers shorter printed or where they all scooped up. They have always been tougher to buy as a collector; easier to sell as a dealer.

Rich

[rats60]

1968 Tigers are difficult to gauge. They are a heavily collected team and 1968 was a special year. Every Tigers fan wants that card. When demand greatly exceeds supply, it doesn't matter much if a card was 3x or 4x on a sheet.

[Kevvyg1026]

Originally Posted by jmoran19

As promised, one half of the 264 card uncut sheet for 1968 6th series, rows 6 and 7 appear to be SP's but really unknown till the other half sheet is found as 77 card series usually have 33 cards printed 4 times and 44 cards printed 3 times

John

The Stephenson row (2nd row on slit shown) is at the bottom of the other slit (miscuts of Niekro & Stephenson support that). Cards in that row also sometimes have a white line near the bottom, most likely a cutting support line.

The Von Hoff row (3rd row on known slit) appears to be at the top of the other slit based on numerous cards in that row having a white line at their top.

[Kevvyg1026]

Do you have any uncut material for 1965 Topps 6th series (447 to 522)?

[jmoran19]

Originally Posted by Kevvyg1026

Do you have any uncut material for 1965 Topps 6th series (447 to 522)?

nope

[deweyinthehall]

This is a timely conversation for me, as I am in the process of putting together a 1968 set.

Some unscientific observations from my experience thus far (I now have 501 of the 598 total):
1) the two brick and mortar stores I frequent have albums with older vintage cards by year for sale. In each location, supplies of the 6th series generally were close to non-existent.
2) the major e-bay and Beckett stores I use normally use (Burbank, Mantlerulz, Batters box) show a similar lack of 6th series cards as well.
3) Where I can find them elsewhere, some patterns emerge:
- A number of the cards in rows 6 and 7 on the pictured slit do seem to command premiums - the May, Denehy, Cline, Wagner in particular. Others don't seem to, but of course it's always possible some sellers don't realize they may be in shorter supply.
4) A few cards that aren't on these "SP" rows also command premiums well above and beyond, most notably John Tsitouris which is a real hard one.

An image of the other slit would be great to come by.