Hey, pennant guys

[Domer05]

Anyone think this one may be from the same manufacturer? I know I've seen it before with a split spine; and it's from the same era as the others....

[bocca001]

Following-up on earlier posts from Greg and Mark about much loved and surviving pennants, I finally managed to get a real SF Seals pennant. Been looking for a good number of years, so jumped on this one even though it clearly has some condition issues.

It was certainly much loved by someone and I kind of like it for that (I'm not going to try any cleaning or repairs). Someone wrote player names on the white paint in several places. (Not sure why my uploaded pics always look a bit fuzzy, they don't on my phone/computer).

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Following-up on earlier posts from Greg and Mark about much loved and surviving pennants, I finally managed to get a real SF Seals pennant. Been looking for a good number of years, so jumped on this one even though it clearly has some condition issues.

It was certainly much loved by someone and I kind of like it for that (I'm not going to try any cleaning or repairs). Someone wrote player names on the white paint in several places. (Not sure why my uploaded pics always look a bit fuzzy, they don't on my phone/computer).

I love it Marc! I’m glad the condition issues allowed you to get it at a good price. Any superstar names on there?

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Following-up on earlier posts from Greg and Mark about much loved and surviving pennants, I finally managed to get a real SF Seals pennant. Been looking for a good number of years, so jumped on this one even though it clearly has some condition issues.

It was certainly much loved by someone and I kind of like it for that (I'm not going to try any cleaning or repairs). Someone wrote player names on the white paint in several places. (Not sure why my uploaded pics always look a bit fuzzy, they don't on my phone/computer).

Marc, glad you got this ... beautiful rare pennant! Clearly an early Trench.

[erikc21]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Following-up on earlier posts from Greg and Mark about much loved and surviving pennants, I finally managed to get a real SF Seals pennant. Been looking for a good number of years, so jumped on this one even though it clearly has some condition issues.

It was certainly much loved by someone and I kind of like it for that (I'm not going to try any cleaning or repairs). Someone wrote player names on the white paint in several places. (Not sure why my uploaded pics always look a bit fuzzy, they don't on my phone/computer).

That’s a great pennant, Marc. Congrats and glad you got it! The extra ‘love’ makes it more interesting imho.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by Domer05

Anyone think this one may be from the same manufacturer? I know I've seen it before with a split spine; and it's from the same era as the others....

Yes no question. Also fitting in here are these pennants, 1948-50 with a ribbon graphic ... Mark has a beautiful rare Dodgers example.

[erikc21]

Originally Posted by Domer05

Anyone think this one may be from the same manufacturer? I know I've seen it before with a split spine; and it's from the same era as the others....

This is a really basic question, but assuming all these pennants are from the same manufacturer, we don’t know who actually made them?? Do we think it’s a company yet to be identified, or is it these pennants cannot yet be attributed to a known entity? This is probably addressed in previous conversations.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by erikc21

This is a really basic question, but assuming all these pennants are from the same manufacturer, we don’t know who actually made them?? Do we think it’s a company yet to be identified, or is it these pennants cannot yet be attributed to a known entity? This is probably addressed in previous conversations.

I believe it’s one company, not one of ones we know (i.e. not Trench, Ad Flag, Keezer, or WGN) and we have yet to identify it. They are all very similar in material, stitching, size, style, etc. and they seem to have made as many as Trench did.

[bocca001]

Originally Posted by thetahat

I believe it’s one company, not one of ones we know (i.e. not Trench, Ad Flag, Keezer, or WGN) and we have yet to identify it. They are all very similar in material, stitching, size, style, etc. and they seem to have made as many as Trench did.

Because this company made football pennants for so many high schools and colleges, it seems like there would be a catalog somewhere. About a year ago, I looked around for archives of university books stores, but came up with nothing. I worked a bit with some of the library faculty at my university. Their biggest research find was Kyle's Pennant Fever website.

So, Kyle, seriously, you should put it all in a book someday. The info you have collected doesn't exist elsewhere.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Because this company made football pennants for so many high schools and colleges, it seems like there would be a catalog somewhere. About a year ago, I looked around for archives of university books stores, but came up with nothing. I worked a bit with some of the library faculty at my university. Their biggest research find was Kyle's Pennant Fever website.

So, Kyle, seriously, you should put it all in a book someday. The info you have collected doesn't exist elsewhere.

Co-signed. Kyle, your work is amazing. And if you ever undertake this endeavor I’ll help however I can and I’m sure others here would too.

And yes I think this is the company behind all the “straight-arm” football pennants.

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Because this company made football pennants for so many high schools and colleges, it seems like there would be a catalog somewhere. About a year ago, I looked around for archives of university books stores, but came up with nothing. I worked a bit with some of the library faculty at my university. Their biggest research find was Kyle's Pennant Fever website.

So, Kyle, seriously, you should put it all in a book someday. The info you have collected doesn't exist elsewhere.

They found my site!? That's awesome

I won't ask you what they thought of it....

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by erikc21

This is a really basic question, but assuming all these pennants are from the same manufacturer, we don’t know who actually made them?? Do we think it’s a company yet to be identified, or is it these pennants cannot yet be attributed to a known entity? This is probably addressed in previous conversations.

I'm not gonna guess who this mystery maker was; but, they had to be HUGE. From what I've seen, in the 1940s, they had to be as active as Trench, perhaps more. They dominated the football and baseball pennant markets; and they did so for both professional and collegiate teams; and, their clients covered the entire nation. I don't believe this company is Trench, ADFLAG, WGN, or Keezer. But I do believe they're a company we will have heard of before (just maybe not realized they made felt pennants?).

I won't say more ... okay fine I will: I have suspected for the past few months that this mystery maker may be one of two companies, both based in New York state: Norsid Mfg. Co., of Yonkers; and Annin & Co. of NYC.

One day we'll no for sure....