1952 Bowman Mantle...this current bidding can't be real, can it?

[GasHouseGang]

It's a beautiful card, but the prices for everything nice are jumping so fast it's hard to keep up. Looking at past auction results from just a few months ago doesn't even seem to be relevant anymore. Prices are crazy right now.

[bobsbbcards]

I suppose someone thinks they can get a bump......to an 11.

[dio]

I'm starting to think the high grade ones will be rich's mans toy, it will soon never reach working individual again

iconic psa 9,10 ultra rich
psa 7,8 normal rich
psa 6. enough to retire rich
from 1-5 is normal working ppl

And sooner or later those great cards will be less and less on the market, those individual will just hold it, they don't care much about the 1-200k when they have 100 million worth

[campyfan39]

This one goes to 11

Originally Posted by bobsbbcards

I suppose someone thinks they can get a bump......to an 11.

[Johnny630]

$15,900 last night

$40k plus two weeks ago

We all know which one is a real value and which one is fairytales

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

$15,900 last night

$40k plus two weeks ago

We all know which one is a real value and which one is fairytales

The one last night was a 5 in a 7 holder. An actual 7 would sell much higher. I would never buy a 7 with 3 damaged corners.

[thatkidfromjerrymaguire]

Originally Posted by rats60

The one last night was a 5 in a 7 holder. An actual 7 would sell much higher. I would never buy a 7 with 3 damaged corners.

I think they are really comparable. Agreed that last night's corners are touched a little more. But the $40K one has a rougher left edge.

Here they are for all to judge. The one on the left sold for $15K. The one on the right sold for over $40K (allegedly).

I'd rather have the one on the left and an additional $25K in my pocket.

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[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by thatkidfromjerrymaguire

I think they are really comparable. Agreed that last night's corners are touched a little more. But the $40K one has a rougher left edge.

Here they are for all to judge. The one on the left sold for $15K. The one on the right sold for over $40K (allegedly).

I'd rather have the one on the left and an additional $25K in my pocket.

Attachment 442708

In my opinion the one on the left is way worse, a couple bad looking corners and top to bottom centering, the one on the right to me is much better but not at $40,000 plus no way.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by thatkidfromjerrymaguire

I think they are really comparable. Agreed that last night's corners are touched a little more. But the $40K one has a rougher left edge.

Here they are for all to judge. The one on the left sold for $15K. The one on the right sold for over $40K (allegedly).

I'd rather have the one on the left and an additional $25K in my pocket.

Attachment 442708

Disagree. The corners aren't touched, they are missing. If the 15k is a real sale then 40k is more than fair for a card 2 grades better. I would take the nicer card everytime, though I think they are both over priced.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by rats60

The one last night was a 5 in a 7 holder. An actual 7 would sell much higher. I would never buy a 7 with 3 damaged corners.

It did suck compared to the 40,000 plus one, that being said the 7 last week was still not worth $40,000 plus.

[thatkidfromjerrymaguire]

Originally Posted by GasHouseGang

It's a beautiful card, but the prices for everything nice are jumping so fast it's hard to keep up. Looking at past auction results from just a few months ago doesn't even seem to be relevant anymore. Prices are crazy right now.

I suppose. I guess I just can't quite come to terms with the fact that MAYBE the market really is that hot right now.

It's possible that there are just a LOT of new collectors with a LOT of money looking to build collections and invest.

But it's also possible there are a smaller number of people manipulating the market.

I mean, if you really wanted that card and were willing to pay almost $40,000, wouldn't you at least try to snipe it in the last minute instead of run the price up days before? This feels too much like a blatant, public attempt to run the price up of that card.

Also, to be clear, I'm not trying to implicate PWCC of any wrongdoing here. It could be legit bidding, or it could be manipulated by any number of others from the consigner, to a couple random guys that are sitting on a stack of 1952 Bowman Mantles trying to run the price up and then benefit over the coming months by slowly selling off their Mantles.

[dio]

And this one 51 bowman mickey mantle psa 3 sold for 74k, although got the pwcc exceptional sticker, but he's like paying for a 6 or 7 for a 3, that doesn't make sense


https://www.slabwatch.com/itm/1951-B...E/224243133520

[scmavl]

Originally Posted by dio

And this one 51 bowman mickey mantle psa 3 sold for 74k, although got the pwcc exceptional sticker, but he's like paying for a 6 or 7 for a 3, that doesn't make sense


https://www.slabwatch.com/itm/1951-B...E/224243133520

Is that the same PSA 3 that a guy offered here last month for $25k or $29k? Great card with a speck of paper loss, if it's the same one.

[Johnny630]

Many Auction's like this are not for collectors they're for Investors/Traders.....

When I statements like....critical investment piece...key blue chip item

[pokerplyr80]

I saw this one as well and wa as surprised. For comparison Dean has a PSA 6 up for 10k. When a Dean's listing looks like a bargain compared to an active auction you know something is off. Or at best he just can't raise his prices fast enough to keep up.

[bobsbbcards]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

When a Dean's listing looks like a bargain compared to an active auction you know something is off. Or at best he just can't raise his prices fast enough to keep up.

LOL. It must be draining to have to keep upping the prices on your merchandise to guarantee that nothing ever sells.

[bobsbbcards]

Originally Posted by thatkidfromjerrymaguire

...to a couple random guys that are sitting on a stack of 1952 Bowman Mantles trying to run the price up and then benefit over the coming months by slowly selling off their Mantles.

My guess.