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Old 02-06-2021, 07:18 PM
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Then they better step it up.

30 seconds IS a bit slow I suppose.

And if they hire another 100 "experts"...

I've been unemployed for 335 days, not that I'm counting, so if they want to drop the most recent submissions by Dmitri Young by my place, I can whip those out in a couple seconds because I don't even have to see them to know they are 10s.

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I've been meaning to ask you if the outlook looks hopeful for concerts and outdoor venues this summer. Think you'll get back on the road?
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Old 02-07-2021, 10:52 AM
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I've been meaning to ask you if the outlook looks hopeful for concerts and outdoor venues this summer. Think you'll get back on the road?
I predict that all stadium level tours currently scheduled (Motley Crue / GnR / Green Day / etc.) will be "postponed" (again).

I have a couple festival shows scheduled in September but I'm not holding my breath about confirmation that 50,000 people can attend happening before infrastructure costs cause them to "re-schedule".

General consensus in the roadies with titles (tour managers, tour accountants, production managers) community is late, late, late, late summer at best.

The good news is I have plenty of time to sort thru my stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHPOzQzk9Qo

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I predict that all stadium level tours currently scheduled (Motley Crue / GnR / Green Day / etc.) will be "postponed" (again).

I have a couple festival shows scheduled in September but I'm not holding my breath about confirmation that 50,000 people can attend happening before infrastructure costs cause them to "re-schedule".

General consensus in the roadies with titles (tour managers, tour accountants, production managers) community is late, late, late, late summer at best.

The good news is I have plenty of time to sort thru my stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHPOzQzk9Qo

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In a past life I was a union carpenter for IATSE and would work occasionally at Atomic often building sets for rock tours. I know they are really suffering as are all the performing arts and support industries. Everyone thinks of the artists and maybe the tour people, but the people who build the sets and lighting and the designers and on and on are suffering. It really is a heartbreaking thing to watch so many friends struggle to keep their heads above water.
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Old 02-07-2021, 12:19 PM
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In a past life I was a union carpenter for IATSE and would work occasionally at Atomic often building sets for rock tours. I know they are really suffering as are all the performing arts and support industries. Everyone thinks of the artists and maybe the tour people, but the people who build the sets and lighting and the designers and on and on are suffering. It really is a heartbreaking thing to watch so many friends struggle to keep their heads above water.
And the ushers, and the security staff, and the parking lot attendants, and the concessions workers, and the cleaning people, and the box office staff, and the caterers, etc.

The number of people employed by the average concert is far more than anybody thinks about.

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PS - apologies to Peter for the accidental hijacking of his thread.

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... and all of the local bars and restaurants that surround these concert venues. Business owners, cooks, waiters, busboys, receptionists, food and beverage suppliers, and the list goes on.

Here in WA, you can't even go to a restaurant that has entertainment of any kind. You can cram hundreds of people into a Target, Wal Mart or Costco, but live entertainment is forbidden.

You can't even have a single entertainer in a coffee house or restaurant.... despite the fact that they'd be performing 12-15 feet away, while the dining tables are spaced 6 feet apart.

Double standards galore in the PNW. An actual live concert seems like a pipe dream at this point. Getting a hole in one used to be my lifetime goal. Now it's simply to attend one more real concert. At least we crammed in a few good shows just before the lockdowns were enacted.

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... and all of the local bars and restaurants that surround these concert venues. Business owners, cooks, waiters, busboys, receptionists, food and beverage suppliers, and the list goes on.
Yep, and on, and on...
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What baffles me, at least in MA, is the constantly shifting guidance in response to minor changes in the statistics, and the seeming arbitrariness of the guidance. So it's OK to have 10 people in a meeting but not 15? How is that really helpful?
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What baffles me, at least in MA, is the constantly shifting guidance in response to minor changes in the statistics, and the seeming arbitrariness of the guidance. So it's OK to have 10 people in a meeting but not 15? How is that really helpful?
I agree.

If the federal government had done what many would consider to be it's job and instructed the states with specific policies, guided by the elements of the federal government whose specific training and jobs were meant to deal with medical situations of the kind we were (and still are) facing 10+ months ago instead of telling the states to pretty much "do what you think is best" for an issue that was clearly on a national (technically international) scale, we might be in a better position now.

But, that didn't happen, so... here we are.

It's all certainly well beyond my pay grade, and I assume those of everybody who will read this post.

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What baffles me, at least in MA, is the constantly shifting guidance in response to minor changes in the statistics, and the seeming arbitrariness of the guidance. So it's OK to have 10 people in a meeting but not 15? How is that really helpful?
10 people can be further apart than 15?

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I think late spring early summer many people will be going out spending their disposable incomes on eating out, entertainment, and vacationing/traveling.

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I think late spring early summer many people will be going out spending their disposable incomes on eating out, entertainment, and vacationing/traveling.
But they won't be doing it at huge rock shows...
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