THE Hall of Fame this year and next:

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by brett 75

The players like Rose , Bonds , Clemens may not have plaques in the hall with the others but they do have plenty of pictures, bats and balls etc.from there playing days that the Hall showcases. I found that a little odd. Rose not likely to ever get in , Bonds and Clemens will eventually I feel.
Brett

Many people make a distinction between the plaque gallery and the museum portions of the Hall of Fame. You're right that Bonds, Clemens, Rose, Jackson and others are part of the museum and have many artifacts and references from their playing days there. However, keeping them out of the plaque gallery is a way of not honoring them like those players who do have plaques.

[Mike D.]

My take on Rose is that he can go in as soon as he's finished serving his lifetime ban. I don't have a problem with him being in, I just don't want him up on the podium giving a speech.

Maybe they need that option for guys like Rose and Schilling. The "you can attend and wave, but no talking" category.

Rose was a great player and a worthy Hall of Famer, but I feel like the ban makes him far more "famous" than his skills. I mean, if you look at his career WAR, it's 79.7. Rod Carew's is 81.3. Rose gets a LOT more ink than Rod Carew!

[Mike D.]

It'd be really nice if the hall would come out with some clarity on the "character clause" - maybe say focus just on their playing career and that stuff (did they do charity work, were they a good teammate, etc.)

Because man, this isn't nearly as fun as it should be...the HOF debate should be the highlight of the winter, and a celebration of the greats of the game...not a discussion of how much leeway we give to loudmouths, PED users (real or imagined), spouse abusers, and the like.

Give me the good old days of Bert Blyleven, Tim Raines, Jack Morris, etc.

[riggs336]

I remember a guy from White Plains telling me Duke Snider should never be in the Hall because "Ebbets Field was a bandbox". Now that was the kind of HOF argument I miss. I was Team Duke by the way.

[ThomasL]

Originally Posted by Mike D.

It'd be really nice if the hall would come out with some clarity on the "character clause" - maybe say focus just on their playing career and that stuff (did they do charity work, were they a good teammate, etc.)

Because man, this isn't nearly as fun as it should be...the HOF debate should be the highlight of the winter, and a celebration of the greats of the game...not a discussion of how much leeway we give to loudmouths, PED users (real or imagined), spouse abusers, and the like.

Give me the good old days of Bert Blyleven, Tim Raines, Jack Morris, etc.

100% with you on this...sad by product of the world we find ourselves in