1949 Leaf Stan Musial color Variations? Why so different?

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by yanks87

there it is! Thanks for sharing Ted. I do find it fascinating that with this sheet and the short print sheet that an alternate version of Newhouser surfaced, as it would have had to been printed on a sheet all to itself? All part of the mystery!

I am familiar with the variant card of Newhouser card; however, I've never actually seen this card to examine it close up. I first collected these 1949 LEAF cards in my youth
in the Spring of 1949. Then continued collecting them for the past 40+ years. As the result of doing a lot of research on them, I published an 8-page story on the 1949 LEAF
set in The Old Cardboard Magazine (Issue #9).

So, I guess what I'm alluding to....is that I'm not sure that this Newhouser card was ever issued back in 1949. Perhaps someoone on this forum will chime in and dispel me
of my doubts.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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[G1911]

The mentioned Newhouser card (obviously not mine). This was a pretty cool find in my book, I do not doubt its authenticity as period from Leaf.

[yanks87]

Originally Posted by G1911

The mentioned Newhouser card (obviously not mine). This was a pretty cool find in my book, I do not doubt its authenticity as period from Leaf.

That's amazing, there cannot be many of them out there, and I wonder if it was a sales sample or a different run? Does anyone know if there was alternate versions in the other sports? Wholesale different photos used?

[G1911]

Originally Posted by yanks87

That's amazing, there cannot be many of them out there, and I wonder if it was a sales sample or a different run? Does anyone know if there was alternate versions in the other sports? Wholesale different photos used?

As far as I've seen, there is no other completely-different image card for any of the 1948-1949 Leaf issues, baseball or otherwise. The Boxing set does have the pulled Graziano card with only a handful known to exist at all (and numerous variations with fighters shirts and coloring, but all the same poses). I believe the Newhouser remains a "1 of 1", presumably an internal sample or protoype of some sort.

Here's the auction it appeared in originally in 2009 (http://feb09.hugginsandscott.com/cgi...l?itemid=10523), with some guessing about it's nature and the discovery. I don't remember it appearing since then, but it may have.

[steve B]

I'm not sure if it's been cleaned up, but Newhousers wikipedia page shows that card without staple holes or the auction watermark.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Newhouser

[Exhibitman]

The white background variations are the bane of Leaf: they were in baseball, football and boxing. A Musial sold a few years ago for a small fortune...then.

[Belfast1933]

If anyone on this thread would consider selling one of their ‘49 Leaf Musials, please PM me... after absorbing all of this great background on the set and the Musial, I’d LOVE to try and add one to my collection

Thx all!

Jeff

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by G1911

The mentioned Newhouser card (obviously not mine). This was a pretty cool find in my book, I do not doubt its authenticity as period from Leaf.

It is a "cool find".....however, it was never issued as such in 1949 LEAF wax-packs. That Newhouser card is considered to be a "prototype", which was changed to the following image.

In the Summer of 1949 when the 2nd Series of LEAF cards were available, this was Newhouser card we got when we opened up the LEAF red-white-blue wax-packs.

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TED Z

T206 Reference
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[G1911]

Originally Posted by tedzan

It is a "cool find".....however, it was never issued as such in 1949 LEAF wax-packs. That Newhouser card is considered to be a "prototype", which was changed to the following image.

In the Summer of 1949 when the 2nd Series of LEAF cards were available, this was Newhouser card we got when we opened up the LEAF red-white-blue wax-packs.

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TED Z

T206 Reference
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That's why I described it as "period from Leaf" and not "likely issued in packs of gum by Leaf", no correction needed. I suspect with many others that it was designed for Series 1 inclusion, before Newhouser got pushed into series 2 and his card redone. Doubt we will ever really know for sure.