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View Poll Results: Who takes Hank Aaron's place on the Franchise Four Greatest Living Ballplayers?
Barry Bonds 25 13.16%
Randy Johnson 4 2.11%
Cal Ripken 15 7.89%
Mariano Rivera 6 3.16%
Pete Rose 53 27.89%
Nolan Ryan 31 16.32%
Someone else 56 29.47%
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Clemens, Schmidt, Pujols, Yaz in that order.
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I could have sworn Yaz had already passed. Whoops! My vote is Pete Rose though.
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Mariano Rivera?

Really?

Ugh

The guy averaged 78 innings played per year.

He seldom, if ever, entered a game where his team didn't already have a 90% chance of winning.

Great at the job he was asked to do, I get it.

But come on, if he was so f'ing good how come he sat on the bench for more than 1380 innings each year?

Maybe we should add Herb Washington to the poll options.

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So who's your pick, Doug??

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Mariano Rivera?

Really?

Ugh

The guy averaged 78 innings played per year.

He seldom, if ever, entered a game where his team didn't already have a 90% chance of winning.

Great at the job he was asked to do, I get it.

But come on, if he was so f'ing good how come he sat on the bench for more than 1380 innings each year?

Maybe we should add Herb Washington to the poll options.
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Non active? Schmidt or Griffey Jr.

Active? Pujols
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So who's your pick, Doug??
Yaz
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Griffey
Rickey
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My vote would go to Mike Schmidt, the greatest 3rd baseman of all-time.
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My vote would go to Mike Schmidt, the greatest 3rd baseman of all-time.
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Did Greg Maddux pass away? Because that would be the only reason he's not on this list
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Mays, Bonds, Griffey, Clemens
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Note - this is not an endorsement of any of these measures and the intent of the OP is not to get into a discussion of the merits of WAR or HOF vote. My only intention is to highlight some other measures of a player's career. So, one way to measure a player's career is to look at their % of HOF votes. Not perfect, but a lot of (at least somewhat) knowledgeable folks voted. Of course, this doesn't include any current players or ones who recently retired. The top 15 living players (1-15):

Rivera
Jeter
Griffey, Jr
Ryan
Ripken
Brett
Gwynn
Randy J
Maddux
Chipper
Schmidt
Bench
Carlton
Rickey
Yaz


Another way to measure a career is by WAR. Here is the top 12 living position players by WAR (and Mays is 3, Aaron 5 and Bench 50):

Bonds, #1 overall
Arod
Rickey
Schmidt
Albert
Yaz
Ripken
Beltre
Boggs
Brett
Chipper
Griffey, Jr

And the top living pitchers, by WAR (Koufax is 89, due to his short career):

Clemens
Maddux
Randy Johnosn
Blyleven
Gaylord
Pedro
Carlton
Ryan
Mussina
Fergie
Schilling
Glavine
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